New 99 trials

[Nynja]

And youre going to essentially stop farming dynamis, stop upgrading any AF2+2 u want to upgrade, stop farming easy currency...to spend the next year pushing everyones relics to 99 for no benefit to yourself?

Bull...

[Nala]

blah... I don't know when you fell off the reason tree Kristal, but as of late no matter the thread i can't help but think you should apply your signature to yourself.

[saevel]

Hmm 10 PW / 20 ADL isn't so bad, but only if two conditions are applied.

#1. Make ADL / PW fight significantly more obtainable. For ADL this means either removing the "clones of death" or adjusting his damage output down and instead give him a ton of HP. He should no longer be able to one shot / nearly one shot entire alliances. Zeni should be easier to come by and PW pop sets should be made easier to build.

#2. Increase the drop rate of items to 1~3, preferably 2 minimum.

If those were in place, then it would be obtainable within a six month period of time for relic holders without sacrificing events.

Something I'm beginning to notice is people demanding things that can be done in a week or three, this isn't good for a game. Now anyone reading my posts would know that I'm probably one of if not the most anti-RNG / grind poster on this forum. This should not be a grind, but it shouldn't be a "drop everything for two or three weeks and get it done" event either. Should be something you work on over the course of ~six months, nine if your schedule is restricted.

SE needs to stop making NM's with huge offensive power and low HP. NM's should only be aoe hitting you for ~650 HP but should take 15~30 min of constant DPS to bring down. This would turn all the fights from zerg fests into endurance battles.

[Damane]

Hmm 10 PW / 20 ADL isn't so bad, but only if two conditions are applied.

#1. Make ADL / PW fight significantly more obtainable. For ADL this means either removing the "clones of death" or adjusting his damage output down and instead give him a ton of HP. He should no longer be able to one shot / nearly one shot entire alliances. Zeni should be easier to come by and PW pop sets should be made easier to build.

#2. Increase the drop rate of items to 1~3, preferably 2 minimum.

If those were in place, then it would be obtainable within a six month period of time for relic holders without sacrificing events.

Something I'm beginning to notice is people demanding things that can be done in a week or three, this isn't good for a game. Now anyone reading my posts would know that I'm probably one of if not the most anti-RNG / grind poster on this forum. This should not be a grind, but it shouldn't be a "drop everything for two or three weeks and get it done" event either. Should be something you work on over the course of ~six months, nine if your schedule is restricted.

SE needs to stop making NM's with huge offensive power and low HP. NM's should only be aoe hitting you for ~650 HP but should take 15~30 min of constant DPS to bring down. This would turn all the fights from zerg fests into endurance battles.

DIAF because honeslty the 1.5 year I put into my relic years ago was allready enough. If you want to go torture yourself again go do an Afterglow weapon. Period.

[saevel]

DIAF because honeslty the 1.5 year I put into my relic years ago was allready enough. If you want to go torture yourself again go do an Afterglow weapon. Period.

If this is your argument, then SE should just create a NPC that you trade your relic to and it returns a fully upgraded one back without requiring any quest / items / ect.

This is not what SE is doing, and could care less if you spent 1.5 years, 2 years, 5 years or 3 months obtaining a relic. Currently implemented as-is, it's not realistic due to it pitting every relic holder against every other relic holder. Relax the fights a bit and make them drop more often would speed things up.

Or as another poster said, make the Stage 1 off DL and the Stage 2 off ADL, that would be workable.

[macross]

20 ADL is doable, but only one person at a time is stupid. My LS already gotten maybe 6-8 umbral since the announcement. 60 riftdross is alot harder to get than you think too. Sure you can spam VW all day but it's a rare ass drop, and not many people have unlimited stones to spam it. If every kill would drop at least 1 dross/cinder then sure it wouldnt be bad, but that's not the case. I hope they add more drops to higher tier VWs next patch. I don't even see many shouts to kill flan/ogre no more, and assholes buy them up and try to resell for 1.5m

[Insaniac]

60 rift??? is bungloads easier because it drops from content people actually do so the supply will be there and there are probably less 95 emps around than mythics, at least on my server. So there shouldn't be a ton of competition to keep the prices that inflated.

The relic trial is the perfect storm of garbage. The demand is highest the supply is hardest to come by and the content it comes from is the most worthless. Worthless is actually putting it nicely. Using your 1 per day dynamis run to help with ADL actually prevents you from doing your own solo run and making an easy 1-3mil. With the Zeni adjustments this trial is worse than the other 2 combined. FFS there's a good chance you walk away from an ADL run with absolutely nothing.

[DrForester]

60 rift??? is bungloads easier because it drops from content people actually do so the supply will be there and there are probably less 95 emps around than mythics, at least on my server. So there shouldn't be a ton of competition to keep the prices that inflated.

The relic trial is the perfect storm of garbage. The demand is highest the supply is hardest to come by and the content it comes from is the most worthless. Worthless is actually putting it nicely. Using your 1 per day dynamis run to help with ADL actually prevents you from doing your own solo run and making an easy 1-3mil. With the Zeni adjustments this trial is worse than the other 2 combined. FFS there's a good chance you walk away from an ADL run with absolutely nothing.

Compare to Empyrean if you want, but keep in mind Mythic holders had to go through a lot more crap just to get their weapon to begin with than simply handing in a pile of ancient currency.

[Insaniac]

I don't find that relevant at all. Saying the 99 relic trial is worse than the other 2 combined doesn't mean anything but that. I'm not saying all the trials should be equal I'm just trying to give perspective. SE said they want it to be mythics < relic < emp in order of difficulty but in reality is emp < mythics <<<< relic unless they make drastic changes to the relic trial.

[Sparthos]

With current prices it'll be 150M to get an Emp to 95 followed by another 60-120M to hit 99 at current Riftdross/cinder prices. This is reasonable SE? lol

Botulus is harder than Ig-Alima so I'd imagine prices on cinder will always outweigh dross.