SMN adjustments....seriously?

[Tawnee]

Camate, What ever became of Cait-sith and Atomos and is there a specific reason why we haven't received any decent new Blood Pact: Rage abilities since 75 cap?

[leorez]

Camate, What ever became of Cait-sith and Atomos and is there a specific reason why we haven't received any decent new Blood Pact: Rage abilities since 75 cap?

because SE doesnt like giving SMN nice things. And sadly that dev response didnt help anything, its still a fricken useless adjustment, not even sure why they bothered with it...or doing it first.

[Tohihroyu]

BUT GAIS THE ELEMENTAL AVATARS ARE SO SUPA KAWAII DESU ^_____^ CAIT SITH & ATMOS ARE BAKAS!

*headdesk*

This among many other reason is why so many are quitting. This is a load of bullshit.

[Edyth]

Let's just stop here.

If you are a serious SMN you have the Magian avatar perpetuation staves to at least level 90 (or a Nirvana if you are super, super cereal) meaning that your Elemental Spirits are free or give you MP back. Elemental Spirit merits are wholly unnecessary.

Or, I'm in the process of working on Nirvana, and I'm not wasting my time on 7~8 staves that, combined, are still nothing compared to Nirvana.

Just finished the assault journals portion, getting Sarameya Hide on Friday (and already have Tinnin's Fang), got less than 30K ichor to go, working on gil hording for Alexandrite, and nearly 1/3 done with Nyzul tokens.

And I'm not lugging around 8 bullshit auction house staves for SMN either. Bahamut's Staff is holding me over till I get Nirvana.

[Karbuncle]

Or, I'm in the process of working on Nirvana, and I'm not wasting my time on 7~8 staves that, combined, are still nothing compared to Nirvana.

Just finished the assault journals portion, getting Sarameya Hide on Friday (and already have Tinnin's Fang), got less than 30K ichor to go, working on gil hording for Alexandrite, and nearly 1/3 done with Nyzul tokens.

And I'm not lugging around 8 bullshit auction house staves for SMN either. Bahamut's Staff is holding me over till I get Nirvana.

Then you're almost 10% Complete with it! Considering Alexandrite is going to be your biggest obstacle >_>

Also, I had Twilight, Triplus, and Upgrade Kila's even though i was working on Mandau, and now most of those weapons are useless. Having a long term goal is no excuse for being gimp right now

[Edyth]

Then you're almost 10% Complete with it! Considering Alexandrite is going to be your biggest obstacle >_>

Also, I had Twilight, Triplus, and Upgrade Kila's even though i was working on Mandau, and now most of those weapons are useless. Having a long term goal is no excuse for being gimp right now

Maybe this is somewhat hypocritical coming from someone working on a mythic weapon, but there's more to life than FFXI. And there's more to life than this forum, Ms. 2,675 Posts.

In real life, you invest money into things that are worthwhile. In this game, I'm investing time into things that are worthwhile. Nirvana is enough hours down the drain as it is. I don't need to do 7~8 staves whose ultimate destiny is to be dropped.

[Karbuncle]

Maybe this is somewhat hypocritical coming from someone working on a mythic weapon, but there's more to life than FFXI. And there's more to life than this forum, Ms. 2,675 Posts.

In real life, you invest money into things that are worthwhile. In this game, I'm investing time into things that are worthwhile. Nirvana is enough hours down the drain as it is. I don't need to do 7~8 staves whose ultimate destiny is to be dropped.

Its hypocritical. I think it also shows you don't really have a valid argument. you're attempting to pull a RL Card based on someones post count. You've pretty much just lost any shred of validity you had left.

Considering I have a full time job, and still managed to work on these things, My work did slow my progress, but I didn't let a long term goal get in the way of my short-term performance. If you're playing FFXI Enough to consider Nirvana a goal, you really have no right to attempt to throw out a RL Card.

Because long term goals are not a valid excuse at being mediocre in the present. Most of the Elemental staves (2-3 excused...) Are really rather simple to get. How do i know this? I've helped a friend make a few of them, and she's working on Nirvana as well.

Coincidental eh?

You're not going to have a functional Nirvana for a very long time, Even longer if you don't play often, as you describe clearly. While i understand the idea of not wanting the Staves because of Nirvana, That is an incredibly long term goal, The Elemental Trial Staves would serve you a good long time before you got a Nirvana 95/99.

And you don't really need all 8, just work on a few important ones. Like Thunder, and Ice. The two most used Avatars. This is a reachable Short-Term Goal to hold you over during your Long-Term plan.

Hell, Even a Bahamut's Staff or Fay Crozier would be a worth-while short-term investment. Though the Perp- Staves from *Trials* are much more potent, thus allow you to use different gear-sets for Avatar Idle rather than piling on the Perp-.

Now, I'd be remiss if i didn't add, I feel the Perp Staves are less than important in todays Vana'diel, With voidwatch being MP-Item Heavy, and so forth. So in a way, i Feel that aren't a very worthwhile goal, However, the core of your reasoning is what my replies are directed too. If you had said "I don't want to get them because MP is really not an issue" i'd of be like "Okay then". but your Reasoning is more "I don't want too and you have no real life for thinking its possible", Which is where our problems begin

Also I'm a guy.

[Lyandra]

Personally, I think revamping spirits is a wasted effort since the avatars are what summoner is really about, but I do recognize that some people have an infatuation with them for some reason and it shouldn't be ignored entirely.

I personally have been wanting to use spirits to fight with since I first unlocked SMN many years ago. The fact remains they deal strong elemental damage and have damage resistance, just like the normal elementals. They're a lot more useful than people give them credit for but they have terrible, terrible AI controlling them. Like them or not, they're a part of the job and should be used more often than they should.

Please S-E, continue working on strengthening elemental spirits, and consider revamping them like you did BST jug pets... let us control what spells they cast on a charge system, and increase their spell list; this alone would make them not only more useful but more desirable in combat.

[Karbuncle]

Their Nukes are so terrible its not worth the MP Cost to keep them out - Even if they were free :P

I wouldn't mind a Strengthening of Spirits, as more of a bonus Update, But people would be a little upset if its the only SMN update they got.

Still, Light spirit has Potential, If its AI Was better/More Controlled.

[Babekeke]

1) Scrap the enfeebles from elementals.
2) Let them cast either their highest tier AM, I-V nuke or aga as the only randomness.
3) Give them some MAB.
4) Allow the timer to run as low as 15 seconds (not sure what it caps at without Astral Flow right now)

Then and only then would it be worth using the spirits to nuke. BP rage > BP ward > release > spirit for 2 nukes > Avatar BP again.