No more almost impossible to obtain crap please

[Tashan]

tl;dr. Add hard to obtain weapons is ok. They're not worth the effort.


To be honest, I kind of like that there's desired gear which is really hard to get again.

At LV90 in AbysseaLand, when I completed my LV90 weapon it was a really weird feeling to have gotten the best items for my job and play with nothing to aspire to achieve. Things got really dull.

However, it's also made me realise that back at LV75 when all of these Ultimate weapons were around which not many people had were really not as amazing as the effort we put in for it.

[pim-ptarutaru]

The afterglow effects are terrible, the only benefit is you look shiny (and didn't you already when people saw you with a relic weapon in the first place), and the trials are virtually impossible. Nobody is going to even attempt this, and even if they do, they're insane.

because SE loves seeing you guys QQ. if they are not that great they why worry about it? At least you will be able to most likely get 99 which is the important part. I sware its the same 10-20 ppl on the forums that do most of the bitching lol. when I talk to most of my friends in game most of them dont even care about the after glow there just happy with 99 lol. Most you guys on forums that complain and cry are mainly nothing but jokes. If your that unhappy about the game quit already Geesh. I bet you anything most ppl wont even care if you guys are gone. Now im gonna go back to my game where theres still a ton of my friends playing that aren't QQ over stupid stuff.

(waits for stupid troll face defensive comments to start flooding in)

[Unctgtg]

You guys do realize those crazy trials for for Level 2, noone knows what the level 1 trials are yet.

[Maacha]

You guys do realize those crazy trials for for Level 2, no one knows what the level 1 trials are yet.

These are only becoming the level 2 trials because everyone freaked out so much about them when they were first added to the test server. There originally was no level 1 or level 2, there was only 1 trial to get to 99.

People are complaining now because the dev team spent time to create trials that only 1-2 people per server per year will complete, instead of fixing problems effect far more people and have far larger consequences for the whole game.

[wish12oz]

because SE loves seeing you guys QQ. if they are not that great they why worry about it? At least you will be able to most likely get 99 which is the important part. I sware its the same 10-20 ppl on the forums that do most of the bitching lol. when I talk to most of my friends in game most of them dont even care about the after glow there just happy with 99 lol. Most you guys on forums that complain and cry are mainly nothing but jokes. If your that unhappy about the game quit already Geesh. I bet you anything most ppl wont even care if you guys are gone. Now im gonna go back to my game where theres still a ton of my friends playing that aren't QQ over stupid stuff.

(waits for stupid troll face defensive comments to start flooding in)

The problem with this statement, is that if it wasn't for all those people QQing, the current 'stage 2' trials would of been the ONLY upgrade to go from 95 to 99.

[Zyla420]

You say that, and you still play 25 years later, Zelda, Mario or Sonic...etc, that are the exact same game since 25 years, they're only got "graphics updates" and "gameplay update"...etc, but the BASE gameplay is still the same, FFXI is an online game that can be updated forever, i spent more than 1 irl life year in FFXI (According 1 year without sleep and not AFK, i play from 2004 with 1 year break pause in 2007), i dont have any reason to restart everything from zero to another MMORPG just for a graphic update or a little gameplay update, mainly if FFXI stay updated and i enjoy it,

For myself, I see no reason to replace old MMORPG if new are not a revolution, and they're actualy not

i'm glad that you're such an expert knowing what games i play on a regular basis. not only are you implying you know what i do, you're also implying that the core gameplay of every game you just mentioned hasn't changed in slightest since the originals were conceived. not only this, all of those games are offline, therefore are irrelevant to this point. why you ask? because all of those games can be completely and thoroughly beaten within a few hours.

ffxi is an online game, as such online games require a certain amount of timesinks to keep players interested (read as "keep paying fees"). and timesinks are not a bad thing in alot of instances, but in this particular situation SE is only adding a timesink that almost nobody is going to bother with. if they introduce content that nobody but a select handful of ppl out of the thousands that play are even gonna bother with, they are going to lose costumers. if they lose enough costumers, they will cut their losses and the servers shut down. if the servers shut down due to SE not makin enough money, it won't matter that ffxi can be updated forever, as there won't be anyone playing.

all in all my original point still stands, redundant absurdity is redundantly absurd...

[Alhanelem]

I sware its the same 10-20 ppl on the forums that do most of the bitching lol.

Because only 10-20 people post more than a few times on these forums.

Valid bitching is valid, and SE needs to stop making bullshiat.

[DrForester]

I'd say emp weapons should have pretty difficult (but not impossible) trials. They're great weapons and far easier to get than Relic and Mythic. Relic and Mythic trials though should be pretty minor and reasonable. People with those weapons put in their time. They should not have those items that required an extraordinary time and gil investment downgraded by impossible quests.

[Tamoa]

I'd say emp weapons should have pretty difficult (but not impossible) trials. They're great weapons and far easier to get than Relic and Mythic. Relic and Mythic trials though should be pretty minor and reasonable. People with those weapons put in their time. They should not have those items that required an extraordinary time and gil investment downgraded by impossible quests.

This makes sense to me aswell.

[Unleashhell]

Seriously guys, how do you all know that there wasn't 2 stages for the level 99 weapons to begin with? Just because it was on the test server as 1 stage doesn't mean anything. If you go there now there STILL isn't a trial to get to 99 phase 1. They wouldn't put that information in because they don't want people getting the requirements ready and all have 99 weapons done right away. They want people to wait. For instance if it was 20 DL pop sets for 99 phase 1, people would get 20 pop sets ready to go and after the update everyone would be cramming the DL pop spot. Notice that's DL not ADL.

You guys should all know by now they don't listen to this forums so please stop thinking they changed things because we bitched. We don't work at SE nor do we know what they are doing until updates are downloaded.