No more almost impossible to obtain crap please

[Tamoa]

Like it is for some IRL party of dungeon & dragon "paper RPG",
I beleive FFXI and server will stay up a realy long time, SE dont have any reason to turn off servers if there is people to play and till they're frequently adding new content i dont see any reason to stop playing it for myself,
So if you have 10 years+ to done slowly at your rythm your achievment, i think its just good like it

What the...??? So you think taking TEN YEARS+ to reach your goal IN A GAME is reasonable? Really??? Do you even know what you are saying? I've read some stupid stuff on this forum before but I believe what you just said there tops everything.

[Hercule]

What the...??? So you think taking TEN YEARS+ to reach your goal IN A GAME is reasonable? Really??? Do you even know what you are saying? I've read some stupid stuff on this forum before but I believe what you just said there tops everything.

stop complain and cry + insulting people that dont think like you, and just done the stuff you can do, why you want the "Super Hardcore items" if you are not a "Super Hardcore player"

Personally i know i will probably never get these stuff, and only a couple of realy hardcore players will done it per server, that the idea

[Zyla420]

Like it is for some IRL party of dungeon & dragon "paper RPG",
I beleive FFXI and server will stay up a realy long time, SE dont have any reason to turn off servers if there is people to play and till they're frequently adding new content i dont see any reason to stop playing it for myself,
So if you have 10 years+ to done slowly at your rythm your achievment, i think its just good like it

i have to agree with the other guy, this is just straight ignorant dude. you honestly think this game is gonna be around that much longer? hardly. nowhere even close to reality even. this game is nearly dead as it is, a system like this is only going to start to put nails in the coffin.

think about it. there's hardly any of the "hardcore" players even playing anymore. on top of this SE repeatedly puts in content that is nothing but gigantic time sinks for at best minimal rewards. don't believe me? go look at all of the top tier rewards for VW, then look at the ppl who are 0/300-400+ on these drops. and before you even try to argue that top tier should be earned, you're right, it should be earned, but even "hardcore" players would see where the fault in systems like this lie.

this isn't about ppl not being willing to work towards a goal. this about SE being completely and utterly redundant on level that is staggering, retarded, and just playing sad. expecting ANYONE to spend 10+ years to get top tier anything stupid beyond stupid. lemme put it another way, the average human life span is what? 60-70 nowadays?

telling me that it is perfectly fine to expect ppl to spend 1/6-1/7 of your actual life only to get something that will only be a minimal boost, simply because the creators are arrogant douche bags that think they can decide what we think is fun for us, even back at the games infancy, this would've been nothing short of a bad joke.

[Saefinn]

You can't really expect players to turn FFXI into their life, time sinks in this game already are quite massive. Time sinks don't make the game fun or interesting, it just means repeatedly doing the same thing over and over and over until you get the piece of gear you seek. In my mind that's not playing a video game, that's work and not particularly interesting work. Yes, there is the option to not have the gear and to be honest, I don't go out to get the best, if it means elitists laugh at me, so be it, I'd rather spend the time doing something else. But I did find myself getting hooked into that mode of spending hours in the game and it didn't feel that healthy and it wasn't all that rewarding, hence I'm a casual player now, but the game is still fun to play.

But I love the game and it'd be nice to get the better gear, however, I think what would be more satisfying for me is if gear was difficult to get because the fights were hard and not difficult because of endurance and luck (luck in terms of drop rates, pops and winning lots), I think at least the proc system was a step in the right direction as you can boost your chances of a drop. I dunno, I guess I find beating a challenge more rewarding than collecting 'x' number of items or killing 'x' number of monsters.

[Tamoa]

stop complain and cry + insulting people that dont think like you, and just done the stuff you can do, why you want the "Super Hardcore items" if you are not a "Super Hardcore player"

Personally i know i will probably never get these stuff, and only a couple of realy hardcore players will done it per server, that the idea

In other words: As long as something in FFXI doesn't directly affect you, it's quite alright no matter how retarded it is.

[Kiroh]

What I don't get is why SE would even bother adding anything that takes 2 years to finish much less 10+.

Let's face it, in 10 years these items will either be woefully outdated or nonexistent because the servers will have been shut down. And with the direction SE has been taking lately, I'm guessing the latter will come sooner.

[Hercule]

i have to agree with the other guy, this is just straight ignorant dude. you honestly think this game is gonna be around that much longer? hardly. nowhere even close to reality even. this game is nearly dead as it is, a system like this is only going to start to put nails in the coffin.

think about it. there's hardly any of the "hardcore" players even playing anymore. on top of this SE repeatedly puts in content that is nothing but gigantic time sinks for at best minimal rewards. don't believe me? go look at all of the top tier rewards for VW, then look at the ppl who are 0/300-400+ on these drops. and before you even try to argue that top tier should be earned, you're right, it should be earned, but even "hardcore" players would see where the fault in systems like this lie.

this isn't about ppl not being willing to work towards a goal. this about SE being completely and utterly redundant on level that is staggering, retarded, and just playing sad. expecting ANYONE to spend 10+ years to get top tier anything stupid beyond stupid. lemme put it another way, the average human life span is what? 60-70 nowadays?

telling me that it is perfectly fine to expect ppl to spend 1/6-1/7 of your actual life only to get something that will only be a minimal boost, simply because the creators are arrogant douche bags that think they can decide what we think is fun for us, even back at the games infancy, this would've been nothing short of a bad joke.

You say that, and you still play 25 years later, Zelda, Mario or Sonic...etc, that are the exact same game since 25 years, they're only got "graphics updates" and "gameplay update"...etc, but the BASE gameplay is still the same, FFXI is an online game that can be updated forever, i spent more than 1 irl life year in FFXI (According 1 year without sleep and not AFK, i play from 2004 with 1 year break pause in 2007), i dont have any reason to restart everything from zero to another MMORPG just for a graphic update or a little gameplay update, mainly if FFXI stay updated and i enjoy it,

For myself, I see no reason to replace old MMORPG if new are not a revolution, and they're actualy not

[tyrantsyn]

"Only a few PC will ever complete"

This right here equal's to me a waste of content i'm never going to bother with. Player's want challenge, not a 1 to ??? years to complete trial. Telling the player base something like this is like a kick to the nard's and as your double over in pain just told to deal with it and their be back in 10 minutes to administer another helping. I understand the idea is to have these individual's stand out in a crowd. But it's at the crowd expense that these few player's will ever get these done. And there's no reward for those watching someone else walk away with the prize. I for one agree that atm the rewards don't seem to add up to the sacrifice. And I for one wouldn't want to participate in something that in the end some one gets left out. Whether it would be me or someone else.

[Vold]

You guys thought I was joking when I said that if SE thought they could get away with it they'd include this with every new update. Just wait for it. They're figuring out what stage 1 will entail after they decided to turn what they had into stage 2. And I guarantee you it will once again feel like this. Because it can't be easier than the level 95 trials. Though they might count both stages as one complete trial I guess and stage 1 may very well be fairly "easy." That is, unless they are bright enough to understand their own design and be all like, whoa whoa whoa no one is ever going to finish stage 2 so we need to make stage 1 hard. Yeah...

[Unleashhell]

If I read it right people that have the 95 weapons will be able to obtain the level 99 version fairly easily. Its just the 2nd part which is the Afterglow. I would think the 1st part would be like 20 Dynamis Lord kill or something like that for relics. Which isn't a big deal. Mythics maybe 10-15 PW? If that's the case at least you can get a couple items to use towards afterglow or sell them and divide it out for peoples time. Empyreans I'm not sure maybe there is something new for VW coming out for it? You will still get the stat updates and a level 99 weapon. You just wont glow Sort of like the relic +2 items. You get the 1st part of the relic +2 upgrade then the additional trial for the augment, in this case the augment will be Afterglow. At least this is how I read it unless something changed.