Fix Coruscanti in the works?

[Ilax]

Why are you posting Mandau comparison in this thread? It has nothing at all to do with Mandau. This thread is about Coruscanti's occ. deals severe damage not working.

Is all about mandau, don't you think SE nerfed it to not make mandau look even more piece of crap?

How a Relic, mythic or empy can't proc on WS or as SUB, but a stupid Coruscanti should?
How can you even think Coruscanti with 10% proc is right when relic is 5% onry?
How can you ask dev to fix something that obviously make no sense from start.

But ya, you might be right, and after DEV review all this crap, they will only remove the possibility of 4x DMG as sub, and look at the new insult incoming:

Mandau + Coruscanti = no effect [as they would fix as sub = no 4x dmg.]

so my best option be:

Mandau + Triplus dagger spamming 3~4k dmg Evisceration

or

Coruscanti + Lux Pugio (Dex +25 total, Crit Rate +9% total) go go Evis 4~5k normal, and 16k to 20k when 4x kick in (10%).


But ya, you absolutely right, it have nothing to do with mandau, let trash mandau.

Edit: What i am saying Dew, there evident reason why DEV never gave triple dmg apply to WS with relic, mythic, would be too broken and way too powerful, and i don't even see 1 good reason to give Coruscanti that kind of advantage, in fact i don't even understand why they release such of dagger in game.

[Sira]

i generally dislike posting on the official forums because of the generally retarded state the community is in here, but this post of yours needed some attention.

first of all yes, relic and empyrean weapon's aftermath does not affect their weapon skills, the same cannot be said about mythic weapons as those weapon's aftermath is in fact included in weapon skills.

secondly this in no way affects whether or not you will use your mandau, if i remember correctly you can dual wield and you can only carry one coruscanti and lux really isnt all that great of a dagger. Additionally, mercy stroke is actually pretty decent all things considering, the only thing that beats it is rudra's storm, which you may want to create a topic about bitching how empyrean weapons are far superior to relic weapons.

third: i have reported this a few weeks ago (as i was the one to originally test this being one of the few first players to obtain it and the proccing on weapon skills seems to only have worked during a double attack or on a normal offhand strike during a weapon skill), and it is supposedly being looked into, i wouldnt be surprised if it was fixed soon because believe it or not this forum serves a purpose, and the report i made before this one ended being the cause for modus vertias' adjustment.

get your head out of abyssea, that shit is dead.

but judging by how many empyreans you own, i wouldn't be surprised if you loved abyssea still, but my only question then remains is how with all those empyreans and what not are you only doing 3-4k eviscerations?

[Ilax]

i generally dislike posting on the official forums because the generally retarded state the community is in here, but this post of yours needed some attention.

I know right?

I just dare you to prove me i am wrong about "Mercy fail" and "Rudra's storm", of course if you STACK Sneak attack or Trick attack, then you have a potential WS DMG, outside that, MS and Rudra's is FAIL, unless you consider 500~700 dmg good dmg and ignore that you can spam 3~4k Evis inside abyssea, and 1.5~1.8k outside abyssea. And i also DARE you to say THF always have SA or TA ready for every WS they can land, you be @ 1,200 TP if you wait timer.

There is no point to SUB Coruscanti (outside the extra DEX and +5% Crit) if the quad dmg. don't apply as sub.

It is also BS if Coruscanti quad dmg. proc as SUB when relic are not.

So from base if you want it "FAIR GAME" Coruscanti have to be main hand to have his full potential, so your best BET would be Coruscanti Main + Mandau sub for the +35 attack (SE plan to nerf that in future)

Coruscanti/Mandau
-Occ quad dmg. (Also apply to WS @ 10% Proc)
-Crit hit Rate +5%, DEX +15, attack +35[assuming they will never nerf this part as sub]

Mandau/Coruscanti
-Occ triple dmg. (not apply to WS, 5% Proc.)
-Crit hit Rate 5%, DEX 15, occ. poison 10/tic for 1 min, Attack +35

Coruscanti/Lux Pugio
-Occ quad dmg. (Also apply to WS @ 10% Proc)
-Crit hit Rate +9%, DEX +25

People are real blind, ignorant or just loving to destroy the "Balance" in this game. Don't let me pop my 12x SS spamming Mercy FAIL with a BREW that did 1~2k VS 6~10k with Evis. (Of course i am talking about "WITHOUT SA or TA on brew")

You know what this mean? If BREW not giving Mercy FAIL a good DMG number, nothing as GEAR will do. End of story.

[Haxetc]

People are real blind, ignorant or just loving to destroy the "Balance" in this game. Don't let me pop my 12x SS spamming Mercy FAIL with a BREW that did 1~2k VS 6~10k with Evis. (Of course i am talking about "WITHOUT SA or TA on brew")

You know what this mean? If BREW not giving Mercy FAIL a good DMG number, nothing as GEAR will do. End of story.

That's how I was supposed to figure out what WS I should be using ? D:
Thank you so much, I knew I'd learn something from this thread, now I know to use Blade: Chi as my main Katana WS

[Prothscar]

What am I looking at

[Ilax]

That's how I was supposed to figure out what WS I should be using ? D:
Thank you so much, I knew I'd learn something from this thread, now I know to use Blade: Chi as my main Katana WS

Well thanks for pointing silly stuff like that, i used BREW and MS FAIL scheme to prevent people saying: "Your THF GEAR is wrong", you missed my point, but that nothing new on this forum.

i can also put back Sira quote for you.

i generally dislike posting on the official forums because of the generally retarded state the community is in here

[Sira]

I know right?

I just dare you to prove me i am wrong about "Mercy fail" and "Rudra's storm", of course if you STACK Sneak attack or Trick attack, then you have a potential WS DMG, outside that, MS and Rudra's is FAIL, unless you consider 500~700 dmg good dmg and ignore that you can spam 3~4k Evis inside abyssea, and 1.5~1.8k outside abyssea. And i also DARE you to say THF always have SA or TA ready for every WS they can land, you be @ 1,200 TP if you wait timer.

There is no point to SUB Coruscanti (outside the extra DEX and +5% Crit) if the quad dmg. don't apply as sub.

It is also BS if Coruscanti quad dmg. proc as SUB when relic are not.

So from base if you want it "FAIR GAME" Coruscanti have to be main hand to have his full potential, so your best BET would be Coruscanti Main + Mandau sub for the +35 attack (SE plan to nerf that in future)

Coruscanti/Mandau
-Occ quad dmg. (Also apply to WS @ 10% Proc)
-Crit hit Rate +5%, DEX +15, attack +35[assuming they will never nerf this part as sub]

Mandau/Coruscanti
-Occ triple dmg. (not apply to WS, 5% Proc.)
-Crit hit Rate 5%, DEX 15, occ. poison 10/tic for 1 min, Attack +35

Coruscanti/Lux Pugio
-Occ quad dmg. (Also apply to WS @ 10% Proc)
-Crit hit Rate +9%, DEX +25

People are real blind, ignorant or just loving to destroy the "Balance" in this game. Don't let me pop my 12x SS spamming Mercy FAIL with a BREW that did 1~2k VS 6~10k with Evis. (Of course i am talking about "WITHOUT SA or TA on brew")

You know what this mean? If BREW not giving Mercy FAIL a good DMG number, nothing as GEAR will do. End of story.

first off as a thf you should be making every attempt to either trick or sneak attack whenever your timer is up, though majority of your weapon skills will be outside of those two abilities you SHOULD be using those, mercy stroke and rudra's storm, when the time is applicable. Furthermore evisceration has been incredibly good in abyssea without help of alot of gear, that said, coruscanti is no exception. In abyssea as a typical dagger wielding job you should be using the standardized atma that works in favor of us to begin with, that said your crit rate should nearly be capped if not already capped, additionally you should have quite a bit of dex because of the cruor buffs and atma effects that you are using. that said it is why i questioned you earlier as to why your eviscerations are only doing 3k. Now that we have those 2 major points pointed out lets look at coruscanti, the dagger has 4 less damage than mandau at 95, once relic weapons have been updated for the lvl 99 spectrum mandau will be on the next level of weapon rank. So mandau wins hands down in that department. Another point: if your crit rate is nearly capped, how much of an impact do you think 5% more crit rate is going to net you? Do you understand what exactly your DEX is doing during a weapon skill and how it affects the damage? the amount of dex you have and the mod that is on evisceration, the gain from 15 dex especially in abyssea will be rather minimal. Dagger weapons shine during a critical attack, this is including your typical melee attack, so if you are going to be using that is solely meant to be used in a way that forces it to crit, gaining 999 attack and 999 dex is not going to change the fact that you are required to crit it to make it useful. Did you decide to not make twashtar because you dont see the benefit of using Rudra's Storm when your SA timer is up, are you ignoring the Aftermath that is generated through the use of that weapon skill and how much it affects your DPS, again another point about dagger wielding jobs is their TP phase makes up alot more of their parse than your typical two-handed jobs. So now that we have looked at the impact of just the crit rate and DEX, do you honestly still believe that lux itself even has a legitimate use? Without having a relic or empyrean if you own a coruscanti and you off-hand a lux there would be questions about whether or not that you are using such a bad DPS dagger as a filler, your best setup would include a Fire Thockcha or in your case the use of mandau, explicitly because of our current weapon rank, and defense penalties require use to have high attack, around the ballpark of 850~ attack for us to make full use of our current weapon rank which mandau has 35 attack on it currently as well as a better DMG rating than both lux and coruscanti.

Again i do not want this to be perceived as a personal attack, but you really need to look at what you are saying, the gain from coruscanti's effects are quite minimal if you look at it right, as a dancer who currently main hands coruscanti, you would think i spend most of my time using evisceration inside and outside of abyssea. But in all actual reality i spend most of my time using Exenterator purely because it's simply just better, and amusingly enough Exenterator is a weapon skill that neither benefits from DEX (outside of accuracy bonus) nor crit rate.


I have not gone into the Occasionally deal Severe damage purely because i know what it was before they removed the affect, and i believe just as you are complaining, that they removed it because they felt that the effect was to strong and they will re-implement it once they find a good median. Remember this dagger is incredibly rare, yes it doesnt require you to spend money on it, unless you consider buying the cells, or do trials for it. But it is made up by the fact that this weapon's drop rate is in the ball park of 0.1%, which i believe is quite far to have additional affects such as what has been mention, just perhaps not as potent.

[Greatguardian]

Well thanks for pointing silly stuff like that, i used BREW and MS FAIL scheme to STFU people that would say: "Your THF GEAR is wrong", you missed my point, but that nothing new on this forum.

i can also put back Sira quote for you.

Brew comment just cinches that you're retarded.

[Ilax]

Brew comment just cinches that you're retarded.

Hey Greatguardian, cg on your 2,991 post! I see you still post useful stuff, keep going on, one day you be @ 10,000!

[Sira]

perhaps i shouldn't have broken my personal rule?