New Weaponskills - Not what was expected

[Prothscar]

Have you tested it out on BST? as I know it's sure as hell isn't 5%

Limules on the test server indicated 5% when I ran the test during my stint on abusing that system as much as I could. Feel free to do it yourself.

[darkhorror]

Limules on the test server indicated 5% when I ran the test during my stint on abusing that system as much as I could. Feel free to do it yourself.

I guess you never tested it on BST, BLU corrosive ooze sucks, Beastmasters doesn't. I am going to sleep now and I couldn't get my attack low enough to test to see exact number yet but it's well over 25%. as fighting beetles where I brought my attack low enough so they would con high defense. Then used corrosive ooze they then conned low defense, I didn't have low enough attack to get it to where they would con neutral, i'll test tomorrow while using a dagger so I can lower my attack enough to see how much def- it actually is.

[Prothscar]

I guess you never tested it on BST, BLU corrosive ooze sucks, Beastmasters doesn't. I am going to sleep now and I couldn't get my attack low enough to test to see exact number yet but it's well over 25%. as fighting beetles where I brought my attack low enough so they would con high defense. Then used corrosive ooze they then conned low defense, I didn't have low enough attack to get it to where they would con neutral, i'll test tomorrow while using a dagger so I can lower my attack enough to see how much def- it actually is.

What part of that makes you think I wasn't on BST? Again, use limules. They're far easier to manage. Accounting for possible errors in the test, most I could see is 25% for a somewhat short duration. 33% for both sounds high.

Just went and got two sample sets very quickly.

No debuff
444 atk
278 def

Debuff 1
332 atk
208 def

Debuff 2
296 atk
185 def


Set 1 coincides with almost exactly a 25% decrease to both stats.

Set 2 coincides with an oddball decimal between 33% and 34% decreases to both stats.

Variable effect seems likely, or it may degrade over time.

Another odd set.

388
243

Almost exactly coincides with a 12.5% decrease to both stats.

Possibly a bug with the test server, as a variable Attack/Defense debuff doesn't seem right.

[darkhorror]

What part of that makes you think I wasn't on BST? Again, use limules. They're far easier to manage. Accounting for possible errors in the test, most I could see is 25% for a somewhat short duration. 33% for both sounds high.

Just went and got two sample sets very quickly.

No debuff
444 atk
278 def

Debuff 1
332 atk
208 def

Debuff 2
296 atk
185 def


Set 1 coincides with almost exactly a 25% decrease to both stats.

Set 2 coincides with an oddball decimal between 33% and 34% decreases to both stats.

Variable effect seems likely, or it may degrade over time.

Another odd set.

388
243

Almost exactly coincides with a 12.5% decrease to both stats.

Possibly a bug with the test server, as a variable Attack/Defense debuff doesn't seem right.

You must have tested on blue before because you said it was 5% which is what BLU does for corrosive ooze.

Your results could be due to some sort of resistance though that would be strange, also what buffs, food, gear did you have when getting those numbers?

I did a test vs beetles where I know their defense, it did lower their defense by 33%. aka their (mob defense)*.666, or (mob defense)/1.5

I guess now I need to go look for something with a lot of fire resistance which I can test on.

[Prothscar]

You must have tested on blue before because you said it was 5% which is what BLU does for corrosive ooze.

Your results could be due to some sort of resistance though that would be strange, also what buffs, food, gear did you have when getting those numbers?

I did a test vs beetles where I know their defense, it did lower their defense by 33%. aka their (mob defense)*.666, or (mob defense)/1.5

I guess now I need to go look for something with a lot of fire resistance which I can test on.

For the fifth time I did not test on BLU

[Mavrick]

What part of that makes you think I wasn't on BST? Again, use limules. They're far easier to manage. Accounting for possible errors in the test, most I could see is 25% for a somewhat short duration. 33% for both sounds high.

The quote below was taken from a test conducted when the Slug pet and Corrosive Ooze was first released... So unless something was changes they should still be accurate.

Checked again just to be certain:
After using Corrosive Ooze on Chasm Gnat I then brawled on it until it used Pandemic Nip (transfers enfeebles from monster to player), at which point Attack Down and Defense Down was transferred to me.

Before gaining Attack/Defense Down effects
Attack: 549
Defense: 440

After gaining Attack/Defense Down effects
Attack: 366
Defense: 293

So basically lost roughly 1/3 of my original attack and defense.

Duration seems to be around ~90 seconds...