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    Player Brolic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    Ok, so what was the crit rate at 100%, 40%? What other ws has a crit rate of 40% at 100 tp?
    any thf ws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo View Post
    I don't know why people keep bringing up 300% TP having 80% crit rate. Who the hell was even weaponskilling at 300% TP? I always weaponskill as soon as I hit 100% TP. I don't see 80% crit rate being that broken considering that you could've weaponskilled three times instead of once at 300% TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    any thf ws
    Any 2 handed weaponskill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    Any 2 handed weaponskill?
    /thf works too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    Ok, so what was the crit rate at 100%, 40%? What other ws has a crit rate of 40% at 100 tp?
    Why would another ws be the same as ukkos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo View Post
    I don't know why people keep bringing up 300% TP having 80% crit rate. Who the hell was even weaponskilling at 300% TP? I always weaponskill as soon as I hit 100% TP. I don't see 80% crit rate being that broken considering that you could've weaponskilled three times instead of once at 300% TP.

    Up your temp game.
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  7. #307
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    Rag+Resolution WARs don't hold a candle to Ukko WARs, except when 2hr is up and even then its close. I spent the morning parsing VW with Shanian and was destroying him on my DRK, won every parse by 4-8% margin. When he goes with Ukon I win 1 in 5 if that.
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  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siiri View Post
    People really think Ukko's having a 80% crit rate at 300% wasn't overpowered? That was so out of line compared to every single other weaponskill in the game. Victory smite was nowhere close to that, I can see the argument there more.

    As for the Resolution screenshot, that was a screenshot, not a parse, not a true reflection of the event. There are parses all over the place where WAR craps all over every other DD. Some random screenshot doesn't make something overpowered. I am sure SE pulled logs, parses etc to find out how overpowered Ukko's was. In a few threads in the war forum, the g.sword and war one in particular, someone makes the argument DRK "isn't even a DD." Now WARs are afraid of a non crit g.sword weaponskill from a loldrk. Please.
    How is it possible to miss every single point in a 300 post thread? No it's not a parse but every WS that drk did was 3k-5k. Who cares if it crits or not. Who cares if it's a DRK. If you are saying 5k WSs are unacceptable from a WAR and that's why this nerf is justified then they are also unacceptable from a DRK and the fact that SE is allowing it makes the nerf to Ukko's 100% arbitrary. Most likely based off the opinion of people like you who don't understand that job balance has a lot more to it than how much damage they can do.

    Those WSs also came from a weapon he just lucked into. Not a weapon he put days/months of deliberate work into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    You can keep making jokes but a SS of a 5k resolution being performed while a nerf to Ukko's looms on the test server just makes you pause for a second and say ".....what?...." Taking the power to do 5k WSs away from an effort based weapon and giving it to a luck based weapon destroys any credibility the "balance card" had left.
    If that's all it takes to destroy the balance card then you're suggesting that the rank for WS from best to worst should be Mythic > Relic > Empyrean and your argument for Ukon is shot anyway. Also, considering that it used to be harder to acquire a Relic, should those who completed them pre neo-dyna have access to a more potent WS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Riaurio
    Character:Scribble
    World:Shiva
    Main Job:WHM lv. 90

    Sooo im guessing your in favor of rdm and sch getting cure v and vi no ?
    Don't judge a book by it's cover? I personally don't care if they give Cure V to RDM and/or SCH. My jobs are WHM, RDM, SCH and BLM so that would only benefit me. Your suggestion to make all of the jobs static is redundant. It would be easier to just remove all the other jobs instead of making 20+ clones of the same thing. What is your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo
    I don't know why people keep bringing up 300% TP having 80% crit rate. Who the hell was even weaponskilling at 300% TP? I always weaponskill as soon as I hit 100% TP.
    You're doing it wrong for several reasons. If your group is put together correctly then you should have no problem getting to 300 TP. I'm guessing you also didn't consider the effect it has on Aftermath?
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  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribble View Post
    If that's all it takes to destroy the balance card then you're suggesting that the rank for WS from best to worst should be Mythic > Relic > Empyrean and your argument for Ukon is shot anyway. Also, considering that it used to be harder to acquire a Relic, should those who completed them pre neo-dyna have access to a more potent WS?
    Your tangent argument is ridiculous and you completely missed the point. I don't care if DRKs get a weapon that can do 5k but saying it's not ok for Ukon to do 5k but DRK is fine just throws balance right out the window. The fact that the weapon that facilitates the 5k damage resolutions is a random luck drop is just icing on the cake.
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