More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

[Scribble]

That is how you chose to translate what I said.

If you're speaking about Ukko's then unbalanced means one of two things. Overpowered or underpowered. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not that stupid to think it's the latter.

Exactly which content are we talking about here?

Endgame.

I don't care what your jobs are, which jobs you enjoy playing and which friends you carry along with you. None of that is relevant to the adjustment.

An Ukko warrior who sincerely cares about other jobs being buffed is just as, in your own words 'unbalanced', as one who doesn't give a shit. Big deal.

You can please some of the people... you can't make them all great DD when they already rip through what should be {Incredibly Tough} content like it's {Easy Prey}. They might enjoy being 'unbalanced', but unless there is some sort of challenge to it they'll just get bored and end up quitting anyway.

[Tamoa]

If you're speaking about Ukko's then unbalanced means one of two things. Overpowered or underpowered.

I'll go with the majority of other weaponskills being underpowered, how about that? Arguing semantics gets us nowhere.

Endgame.

And what do you consider to be endgame in FFXI in 2012?

don't care what your jobs are, which jobs you enjoy playing and which friends you carry along with you. None of that is relevant to the adjustment.

It most certainly is relevant. I want my friends to continue playing this game. I don't want them to get fed up and annoyed with SE to the point where they decide to quit. Maybe this nerf alone won't make them quit, but it could very well be the straw that broke the camel's back for some, and it certainly adds to the feeling a lot of us have about SE not giving a damn about their player base.

An Ukko warrior who sincerely cares about other jobs being buffed is just as, in your own words 'unbalanced', as one who doesn't give a shit. Big deal.

Not even sure what you are trying to say here.

You can please some of the people... you can't make them all great DD when they already rip through what should be {Incredibly Tough} content like it's {Easy Prey}. They might enjoy being 'unbalanced', but unless there is some sort of challenge to it they'll just get bored and end up quitting anyway.

You've been using the word "content" in almost all your posts. I still don't know what content you are referring to, saying "endgame" doesn't really explain anything either. What exactly is this content that should be incredibly tough which DDs rip through like it's easy prey?

[Brolic]

The nerf won't hurt WAR all that bad. As it was already mentioned, WAR will still be the premier DD. WAR is still going to completely destroy most jobs. The only thing it did was slightly close the gap between SAM and WAR. Nothing is going to change because those jobs that were less desirable are going to stay that way. There will be no positive effect for weaker jobs from this like people lead themselves to believe there will be.

actually things will change, all those jobs that didn't get invited will get invited less now. instead of 2 ukko wars killing kaggen in 5 mins people will now just take 4 and forego other melees to ensure that 5 min kill.

[Tsuneo]

actually things will change, all those jobs that didn't get invited will get invited less now. instead of 2 ukko wars killing kaggen in 5 mins people will now just take 4 and forego other melees to ensure that 5 min kill.

Good point, I stand corrected.

[Brolic]

sorry for party hoggin

[Insaniac]

Protip: Resolution is another lolscythe adjustment to keep emo DRKs curled up in a ball.

Do you work for gamepro? Because that's a terrible protip. You can keep making jokes but a SS of a 5k resolution being performed while a nerf to Ukko's looms on the test server just makes you pause for a second and say ".....what?...." Taking the power to do 5k WSs away from an effort based weapon and giving it to a luck based weapon destroys any credibility the "balance card" had left.

The V.smite/Ukko's and Blood Rage nerf needs to be dialed back or completely removed.

[Riaurio]

[QUOTE=Scribble;256318]TBH I don't have anything against warrior specifically. I do have something against people who feel that their job is entitled to be better that everything else; so much so that they are so blinded by it that they can't recognize that changes to reduce their power are warranted.QUOTE]

Character:Scribble
World:Shiva
Main Job:WHM lv. 90

Sooo im guessing your in favor of rdm and sch getting cure v and vi no ?

Maybe all jobs should get the same TH as thf ? We could also give all jobs the same defense and abilities as pld..

Hell why not give every job the exact same JA/spells/def/attack/ws, make them all take the exact same amount of dmg and do the exact same amount of dmg then ppl couldnt complain about other jobs being OP.

[Siiri]

Do you work for gamepro? Because that's a terrible protip. You can keep making jokes but a SS of a 5k resolution being performed while a nerf to Ukko's looms on the test server just makes you pause for a second and say ".....what?...." Taking the power to do 5k WSs away from an effort based weapon and giving it to a luck based weapon destroys any credibility the "balance card" had left.

The V.smite/Ukko's and Blood Rage nerf needs to be dialed back or completely removed.

People really think Ukko's having a 80% crit rate at 300% wasn't overpowered? That was so out of line compared to every single other weaponskill in the game. Victory smite was nowhere close to that, I can see the argument there more.

As for the Resolution screenshot, that was a screenshot, not a parse, not a true reflection of the event. There are parses all over the place where WAR craps all over every other DD. Some random screenshot doesn't make something overpowered. I am sure SE pulled logs, parses etc to find out how overpowered Ukko's was. In a few threads in the war forum, the g.sword and war one in particular, someone makes the argument DRK "isn't even a DD." Now WARs are afraid of a non crit g.sword weaponskill from a loldrk. Please.

[Tsuneo]

I don't know why people keep bringing up 300% TP having 80% crit rate. Who the hell was even weaponskilling at 300% TP? I always weaponskill as soon as I hit 100% TP. I don't see 80% crit rate being that broken considering that you could've weaponskilled three times instead of once at 300% TP.

[Siiri]

I don't know why people keep bringing up 300% TP having 80% crit rate. Who the hell was even weaponskilling at 300% TP? I always weaponskill as soon as I hit 100% TP. I don't see 80% crit rate being that broken considering that you could've weaponskilled three times instead of once at 300% TP.

Ok, so what was the crit rate at 100%, 40%? What other ws has a crit rate of 40% at 100 tp?