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    Player Concerned4FFxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    Confused never once replied and thus led me to believe he/she was too.... stupid to think of an answer to this?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...601#post240601

    i replied dozens more times then you give me credit for and you act like i didnt. You that trolled the tread to begin with, the tread HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GEAR, it was about flagging a wsnm quest, the fact that i mentioned gear in one part of an explanation and your trolled it to death there, trolling here, and your not even did you go back and read the posts before you came here to post, yet you got nerve to call me stupid and act like i avoided you, lol. Enough with the stalking, are you gonna show up behind the aisle at walmart now when I go shopping?

    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi View Post
    AF1+1 body
    +5 Dex, -5% DW

    AF3+2 body
    +12Str/Dex, Acc +17, Attack +17, Crit hit rate +5% (set bonus occ extra attack)

    I agree, AF1+1 you will tp faster, do WS slightly faster, that is a given. What I said in my previous post is I like af3+2 better, it hits harder and with the set bonus I feel it’s better because it can tp almost as fast, but with the added bonuses that it offers I feel it wins out over af1 body. You can’t say that an extra 7Dex and 5% crit hit, 17 acc and 17 Attack doesn’t increase your damage per hit over af1Also, despite the math which was done for tp purpose, where’s the math that covers crit hit rate comparison and over all damage vs. the two sets. Af3+2 does more damage per hit, over time that slight tp bonus advantage you get from swinging a little faster on af1 isn’t the same. I’m hitting harder every swing, I’m criting more often, and if I’m tanking I have augmented Migawari, which let’s face it that is needed more than non augmented version. Again, your twisting my post when it’s clearly stated a non-augmented Migawari isn’t going to save you from dot, or anything that stripped your shadows and hits you while your recasting shadows. An augmented Migawari has a much better survival rate.


    Conclusion: From what I stated about having more Crit hits, and not fighting trash mobs, where the acc is needed such as HNM in the future, outside abyssea where stats on gear matters and acc isn‘t capped, some VW NM even, I prefer Af3+2 for tp body. I agree AF1 may get you to 100tp faster if your fighting low acc mobs, or in abyssea where stats on gear doesn’t mean as much, but I like the bonus of the af3 set and the stats on the af3+2 body better. If, I’m using af1+1 body, and I miss 1-2 hits on a HNM, then it is inferior in tp gain to af3+2 body, as well as the stat difference I already discussed.

    So think about, AF3+2 hits harder, and on higher eva mobs, hits and crits more often, and does more damage per hit due to critting more often, the +12str and the superior +7dex compared to its af1 counter part, what’s not to like. I think both sets have their uses, I prefer AF3+2 body, the argument for nin af1 body to me isn’t strong enough for me to carry it.

    Maybe I’ll change my mind someday, the same time you acknowledge some of my points perhaps. If af1+2 body has -10% DW, then I will reconsider, as it stands now it’s not on my list because -5%DW in the body slot, for already low delay weapons, with an already high dw trait from the job, and already using suppa earring, isn’t enough for me to trade up from my af3+2 body with it‘s superior stats in that slot.

    However, this was a bug thread that got turned into an AF body debate. Please note your attitude towards me here previously, and in the future try not to be so critical (pun intended, get it, af3+2, has higher crit hit rate, lol) when commenting, thank you.
    Now, im not going to go back and repost all the quotes that I orginally quoted and answerted, therefor this post above might not make the best of what im trying to say to u, but thats wht i enclosed the threadlink for. Also, this post didnt have your name on it in the orgianl thread, but from what you posted here, I dont see any specific wuestions that you asked that I didnt answer.

    The whole point I was making which went over your head was,
    1. I already had the af3+2 body before i started leveling nin
    2. I didnt want to do the af1 body quest at that time,and was being forced to do some af to flag the wsnm becuase of a glitch, that's why i posted in the bugs section
    3. I didnt have a problem doing af I just had a problem being forced to do it then
    4. Af3 is better outside of abyssea for the body slot on everything that is not junk mobs and for the future, because (af2+2 wasnt released yet) higher acc, more damage per hit, more crit per hit, better for the body slot. I disagreed with getting af1 to have a little bit more dw when I already had the af3, and 19 other jobs I have to gear so unless af1, as I said, was more impressive then I wasnt gonna invest my time.


    Even if af1 is better outside abyssea, and I doubt it is because of not having the acc or crit hit rate for v.t. mobs or new hnm, the benefit of it wouldn't be much greater than af3, and therefore it is not on my list. You miss one swing in your af1 and you might as well be wearing my af3, get it?

    ALL this is moot now cause af2+2 body seems to have the best tp gear stats, for the body slot, it boasts high acc for non-trash future hnm, and 20 attack for that hard hitting umph, plus dw. So you see, I WAS RIGHT NOT TO GET THE AF1, because af2+2 is the new hotness and I didnt waste anytime in getting something that's not, so ha. If af1+2 turns out to be vastly superior to af2+2, then yes, i'll go get it. But the difference between tping in af1 and af3 didnt seem impressive enough to warrant getting it.

    now pleasae, leave me be in peace and let it go.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 01-02-2012 at 06:11 PM.
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