Nerfing Ukko/Vsmite so lazy players can be more useful?

[Neisan_Quetz]

I'll add it as soon as someone goes and tests it. You couldn't even tell me what Ascetic's Fury or Skewer's crit rate is now could you?

The point remains, there is no uniform 'NQ' or 'HQ' crit rate between crit ws. SE decided them on pretty much a whim.

[scaevola]

5% damage is a lot, lol. It takes a 5500 WS down to 5300.

can't tell if serious....?

[scaevola]

Speaking of people not buying FF games! I just saw this news story about how bad the sales are for FF13-2. Maybe SE will get a clue soon.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/1...ntasy-is-dead/

Opening paragraph really says it all.
"Final Fantasy XIII-2′s first week sales figures reveal it has been outsold by Tales of Xillia, a fact which is being greeted as a massive humiliation and confirmation that the Final Fantasy brand now lies in ruins."

Well, 13 was garbage in its own right so we need not consider 14's (or 11's) problems when evaluating whether we want to spend money on a direct sequel to a game of which my most salient impression was "I paid $60 to listen to Vanille?"

[Insaniac]

If you're upgrading relics then you're not selling currency... Regardless it still took more time and money back then.

Basically what you're saying is that a person who can only work part-time would be able to save up as much money as someone who works everyday. Not only that but the person who can work all week doesn't have to pay for 'transportation'. How the hell does that work?

I'm not trying to come off as an elitist here but have you made a relic under either system? You sound like you are regurgitating what other people are regurgitating.

What I'm saying is that if they both make 10 dollars an hour they both make 400 dollars after working 40 hours. Even if it takes the guy working part time a month of working 10 hours a week. They both put in the same amount of work. 500k was a joke and you could make that by selling 30-40 currency if you even needed to. Yes it's easier to make a relic now but is it THAT much easier? Not really. SE removed the artificial RL time roadblocks and the need to have a huge group of unselfish souls to sacrifice. Personal time investment, while less, is still similar. That's my point.

Edit: I just thought of 2 things that are wayyy easier under the new system. Getting your attest and fragment. So I will give you that too.

[Brolic]

Wait, there are still people in this game gullible enough to have an entire alliance build one person's relic?

Some people never learn.

it's a little different these days, not when a last stage only takes 2 weeks and everyone's getting steps and -1 items.

more so after about 6 years of playing if you're still associating with people that will fuck you over, you deserve to be fucked,

[Scribble]

I understood your point. You made it sound as though it hadn't become any easier to get your currency than it was, but it has. I have a relic that was made during the old system, but I farmed to pay for outside currency because I wanted to complete it in less than a decade.

Remember million dollar hourglasses? That's how much they were when I was doing most of my dynamis. If you'd removed the price of the hourglass and instead spent it on currency, a person could gather enough for a relic in just over a year. I understand your point, but you aren't making it when you try to trivialize stuff that is significant for most people.

Your analogy is wrong too. You're forgetting the lockout period. There are two 72 hour lockouts in a week so 2 runs @ $10/hour for 2 hours is $40. Under the new system you get two hours a day every day of the week which is 7 runs @ $10/hour for 2 hours or $140. That alone is a big difference but when you consider that the first guy has to split his earnings with his coworkers as well as paying for transportation...

[Koroma]

c'mon Tanaka just triple sam ws damage like youve always wanted and stop nerfing others.

[Atomic_Skull]

Know what would be even more delicious? If SE changes their mind and leaves WAR and MNK alone, and then buffs everyone else just as they were asked and as a result WAR and MNK end up being as far below some other DD in damage as everyone else is below WAR and MNK right now.

Do it SE, DO IT!

[Chriscoffey]

Know what would be even more delicious? If SE changes their mind and leaves WAR and MNK alone, and then buffs everyone else just as they were asked and as a result WAR and MNK end up being as far below some other DD in damage as everyone else is below WAR and MNK right now.

Do it SE, DO IT!

These forums aren't big enough to handle that much epic emo and to think they called dark the emo knight. There has never been this much complaining done dark side about something so minor. I think for the most part we just complaning about idiotic abilities/traits that are clearly useless for us. I have accepted sam as the great king of the DD and it shall always be #1, however, I guess SE will adjust the #2 spot accordingly.

[Greatguardian]

These forums aren't big enough to handle that much epic emo and to think they called dark the emo knight. There has never been this much complaining done dark side about something so minor. I think for the most part we just complaning about idiotic abilities/traits that are clearly useless for us. I have accepted sam as the great king of the DD and it shall always be #1, however, I guess SE will adjust the #2 spot accordingly.

Never been this much complaining about DRK? Are you, like, for serious serious?

PUP getting Dread Spikes

Whatever the hell that JA they just added was called, the one where you take damage

Blah blah whine blah blah dark magic blah blah Urteil.

Every month it's a new DRK thread, even if there isn't an update. The crying over this minor nerf was terrible, but DRK is a whole other league.