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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Swapping gear makes you a good player? LOL I am pretty sure most of you use windower to do those gear swaps. How does having a program swap gear for you make YOU a good player? LOL
    FFXI has macros without having to resort to a third party tool, and I'd do not appreciate being called a cheater for knowing how to use those macros to be a better player.

    You may not have been talking to me or any number of the other people who might pile in here to correct your extremely misguided statement, but there is nothing wrong with using the macro system SE gave us as much as possible.

    Even something braindead simple like macroing in gear for WS or different staffs isn't that hard and doesn't make you blink like the holiday lighting on an evergreen. Even if you are only doing simple gear swaps only a tiny bit of the time, your effectiveness skyrockets (and swapping all the time has diminishing returns anyways) and you never have to touch a third party tool to do it. I'm quite lazy about playing the game the majority of the time, but it would be quite irresponsible if I only wore my haste or cure potency set 100% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beathoi View Post
    I guess they won't learn until people just flat out quit and stop buying FF products...
    Speaking of people not buying FF games! I just saw this news story about how bad the sales are for FF13-2. Maybe SE will get a clue soon.

    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/1...ntasy-is-dead/

    Opening paragraph really says it all.
    "Final Fantasy XIII-2′s first week sales figures reveal it has been outsold by Tales of Xillia, a fact which is being greeted as a massive humiliation and confirmation that the Final Fantasy brand now lies in ruins."
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 12-25-2011 at 01:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Swapping gear makes you a good player? LOL I am pretty sure most of you use windower to do those gear swaps. How does having a program swap gear for you make YOU a good player? LOL
    Obviously doesn't know how spellcast or windower scripts work. They're essentially just macros with more lines. If they were super magic doodads that swapped all our whosits and whatnots with no input from the player, we'd call them bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Speaking of people not buying FF games! I just saw this news story about how bad the sales are for FF13-2. Maybe SE will get a clue soon.

    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/1...ntasy-is-dead/

    Opening paragraph really says it all.
    "Final Fantasy XIII-2′s first week sales figures reveal it has been outsold by Tales of Xillia, a fact which is being greeted as a massive humiliation and confirmation that the Final Fantasy brand now lies in ruins."
    This really doesnt mean much considering Tales is a freaking HUGE series in Japan.

    US hasnt even gotten most of the tales games and doesnt sell as well here at all but their games were always epicly amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    This really doesnt mean much considering Tales is a freaking HUGE series in Japan.
    FF13: 1,516,532
    FF13-2: 524,217
    FF10: 1,749,737
    FF10-2: 1,472,914″
    Tales of Xillia sold 525,605 in its first week

    First week numbers. It is a big deal. A series that always does over 1mil at launch just did half that. Even FF13 did 1.5. Tales is not that big, FF is suppose to be.
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    Agreeing with Wish, not just FF13-2 but FFXIII's 8 week sales total was less than X-2, that's astoundingly bad.
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    I'm not saying the numbers aren't good, but comparing it to a Tales series game which are very big games in JP is really stretching it.
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    Comparing it to previous FFs XXIII sold less than X-2, and that was the second worse FF in terms of first 8 week sales. There's just no defending that.

    FFXIII-2 also happened to sell less than Tales of Xillia's in its opening week when pretty much every other FF's opening sales were almost/greater than double Xillia's.
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    Last edited by Neisan_Quetz; 12-25-2011 at 03:31 AM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    I'm not saying the numbers aren't good, but comparing it to a Tales series game which are very big games in JP is really stretching it.
    The problem I have with your statement is that FF games outsell Tales games 3 to 1, and you're saying Tales games are big and its not a big deal. It clearly is a big deal as FF games should outsell Tales games 3 to 1, but instead Tales is outselling FF.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3..._Franchise.php
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    It's gotten to the point where I wouldn't even be upset if SE went under. Maybe Wada will panic and clean house and Tanaka will get tossed out with the trash.
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