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    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    Better in some instances yes, but for most of this game's lifespan, it hasn't been "some" instances, it's been "ALL" instances. XI has never had balance between the jobs.
    So nerfing WAR, and to a lesser extent Vsmite MNKs, in favor of SAM, without changing how content is approached, will add balance? Explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Originalkord View Post
    So nerfing WAR, and to a lesser extent Vsmite MNKs, in favor of SAM, without changing how content is approached, will add balance? Explain.
    ... uh... it'll improve balance, because there will be less imbalance issues between jobs? derrrrrrrr.

    Oh, you wanted a complete upheaval of all game mechanics and a total revision of all mobs' stats? Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    ... uh... it'll improve balance, because there will be less imbalance issues between jobs? derrrrrrrr.

    Oh, you wanted a complete upheaval of all game mechanics and a total revision of all mobs' stats? Good luck with that.
    As a paying customer, yes...yes I do. Wanting anything less for your dollar is moronic. Playing the role of idealist, they completely broke them with Abyssea, why can't they completely fix them with something else?

    What you perceive to be less imbalance is only shifting it somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Originalkord View Post
    As a paying customer, yes...yes I do. Wanting anything less for your dollar is moronic. Playing the role of idealist, they completely broke them with Abyssea, why can't they completely fix them with something else?

    What you perceive to be less imbalance is only shifting it somewhere else.
    If they broke the mechanics with abyssea why did your previous post illustrating all the game's imbalance not even mention abyssea?

    I perceive it as less imbalance because the nerf on Ukko's puts Warrior in line with 18 of the other jobs. The fact that Samurai is still ridiculous doesn't factor into that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    If they broke the mechanics with abyssea why did your previous post illustrating all the game's imbalance not even mention abyssea?
    Pretty sure I've touched on that in one of my previous posts. You may recall one or two of them.

    I perceive it as less imbalance because the nerf on Ukko's puts Warrior in line with 18 of the other jobs. The fact that Samurai is still ridiculous doesn't factor into that!
    That's fine if thats how you see it. Its clear that the majority here dont share that opinion. At least my WAR will be in line with Bard though...if thats what you meant with the other 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Originalkord View Post
    That's fine if thats how you see it. Its clear that the majority here dont share that opinion. At least my WAR will be in line with Bard though...if thats what you meant with the other 18.
    Quote Originally Posted by Originalkord
    fucking christ is it always just one extreme to the other with you? There is such a thing as middle of the road!
    lol.

    But yeah you're right, Warrior no longer having the single best weapon skill in the game, instead having maybe the 2nd or 3rd best weapon skill in the game, on a weapon with str+20 and the... what... 3rd highest base dmg category of epic two-handed weapons (behind Scythe and Polearm, respectively)...

    Or were you making a reference to my saying WAR is balanced with the other 18 jobs and took that in the dumbest way possible, e.g. that I was saying its damage output is equal to all of theirs individually, rather than that the job is overall balanced with those? Obviously I wasn't talking about just fucking damage output. Herp derp derrrrrrr derp. Because you know, RDM and BRD can do SO much damage, that's clearly what they're invited to groups for and how they're balanced (DISCLAIMER: not that I'm saying necessarily that they are balanced, but moreso than Warrior is right now).


    You know what? Fuck it. Why should they even bother trying to balance the game if all people do is whine that their instakill toy is no longer pumping out the biggest numbers in the game, then bitch that bringing a job more in line with others' abilities is NOT balancing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    You know what? Fuck it. Why should they even bother trying to balance the game if all people do is whine that their instakill toy is no longer pumping out the biggest numbers in the game, then bitch that bringing a job more in line with others' abilities is NOT balancing...
    Douche rocket....listen...I'll type it in caps so you can better understand....

    YOU BALANCE THE GAME BY MAKING CHANGES TO MORE THAN ONE FUCKING JOOOOBBBB!!! NERF THE DAMAGE ON WAR BUT BE SURE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES SO THAT YOU DON'T END UP REPLACING ONE OVERPOWERED FUCKING JOB WITH ANOTHER ONE...!

    You're ignorance is downright offensive. If you think downgrading the damage on WAR is going to balance 18 other jobs then, well...ignorance is bliss after all, I guess.
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    Last edited by Originalkord; 12-27-2011 at 08:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Originalkord View Post
    So nerfing WAR, and to a lesser extent Vsmite MNKs, in favor of SAM, without changing how content is approached, will add balance? Explain.
    if they're truly after balance in this regard (nerfing) then sam needs a couple of nerfs. That would even things out further (just following their line of logic)
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