More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

[Originalkord]

I like how you open with this, then proceed to answer what you consider drivel. What does that make your response...?

I believe one would call it a rebuttal to an ongoing debate...clearly.

You just took an arrow to the knee by mentioning Ranger. Ranger was RIDICULOUSLY BROKEN before they FIXED it. Did they over-nerf it? Yeah, sure they did. But there's absolutely no denying that RNG was by an insurmountable margin the only relevant endgame DD, period.

And at a time when leveling was actually difficult, people who were "main" ranger found themselves left out and had to level BLM.

The only Ninja nerf I can think of was "lose enmity when shadows are hit" which turned out to be GAMEBREAKING amirite?!

Lack of a personal enmity tool/JA. People subbed /BRD and /DRK til they put an end to that, making NIN an ineffective tank, and an equally ineffective DD.

1. Balance doesn't just involve making jobs better. Balance means making everything more equal. Which means things WILL sometimes need to be toned down, that's just a fact.

I agree, but do they plan on making other jobs better?

2. I don't see how changing the subject to Samurais is in any way relevant.

Then you're blind lol. Samurai is now on the same field as WAR thanks to Shoha. Once they tone down WAR, SAM is your 4k+ WS DD, except they can use it a hell of a lot more often. It's plenty relevant, and its a prime example of my entire argument that all SE is doing is toning down one job in spite of another. Nerf Shoha and you'd get me to agree that is a closer step towards balance.

3. Throwing money away? OH NO you're right this nerf's fallout will end up deleting my character and deleveling all your jobs to 10

Deleting your character would imply you've quit, and thus will no longer spend money--"AMIRITE?". You're HAPPY to be playing a game with developers that do not release legitimate content and put the screws to their player base?

4. How does new content "create balance"? Voidwatch did a little bit toward it but even in Voidwatch, it's very common to see T3+ groups bring 3-4 Ukonvasara Warriors, because they're so vastly superior to basically every other DD in the game. This is a fact. The only way "new content" can alter balance is by making different shit overpowered, and in this case they'd have to make content that nerfs the hell out of critical hits - which would bring DRK and SAM back to the forefront with the most powerful non-crit WS. Which ISN'T BALANCE, EITHER.

Thanks for agreeing to my point that new content CAN help balance things, if done correctly.

So what would YOU do to nerf Warrior? Not nerf their bullshit-OP WS? Or would you nerf the Warrior itself to the point that Ukko's ISN'T overpowered anymore - in doing so making non-Ukonvasara WARs the most useless job in the game? Gimme a better solution than nerfing Ukko's and you'll have my attention. :|

I do have your attention if you're responding to my posts, professor. If you read what I said instead of trying to only supplement your own argument, you'll see I agreed that WAR was overpowered. I'll state my argument once again that a nerf to one job alone solves NOTHING. Two months when we all have Masamune SAMs you'll see what I'm, talking about.

So keep thinking that I'm crusading against a WAR nerf. If you look at my gear/jobs, I have plenty to fall back on already. What angers me is that players will jump to the next best thing, and then SE will nerf that too. This is how they operate, and I don't know how you think that's fair.

How's your Ukon coming along, Tag? Still 11/50?

[Tagrineth]

How's your Ukon coming along, Tag? Still 11/50?

Nope. Incidentally irrelevant to anything else, but thanks for asking.