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    Player Logandor's Avatar
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    A friend of mine just informed me he went in on his 95 thf (fully capped in merits/skills) +2 empy gear, empy weapon and twilight dagger. ;.; He got crushed and said for me to not even bother taking my thf in at all because it was a total waste. Now if some one else went in with their thf in decent gear with decent knives and lived to win can you please share your set up. I am still farming the items. I got my one stone but the other stuff is being elusive over here on Carby server at least to this thf.
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    Player Raka's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logandor View Post
    A friend of mine just informed me he went in on his 95 thf (fully capped in merits/skills) +2 empy gear, empy weapon and twilight dagger. ;.; He got crushed and said for me to not even bother taking my thf in at all because it was a total waste. Now if some one else went in with their thf in decent gear with decent knives and lived to win can you please share your set up. I am still farming the items. I got my one stone but the other stuff is being elusive over here on Carby server at least to this thf.
    Did your friend use an Evasion build? Having 5/5+2 Raider's(Emp) gear or Twashtar doesn't really help w/ survivability for THF, with the exception of the Raider's Poulaines due to them donating 12~15 Agility and 9~11 Evasion.

    I can't say I've personally attempted to Evasion tank Atori-Tutori ???, but from what I've read so far...people seem to be throwing "Empyrean+2" sets out there as if they were a must for every situation, and that's not completely true. It's wise to have an Evasion build if you are a career Thief, Dancer, or Ninja just as it is to have a Shield skill build or MDT/PDT build for Paladin, etc..

    Ochain is helpful for this tons, this much is true, but it is not a "must". No offense intended, but I did not at all see this fight to be anywhere near "too hard" and like many posts before me said, there are items that you can farm to make the fight easier. So if it's really that hard, just take some more time to farm those items.

    Like I said though, 5/5 Emp+2 sets or Emp weapons aren't required, but do play a job you took the time to learn/skill/equip properly over something you just "AbysseaBurned" for Maat's Cap. Seen this mistake already many times.

    Good luck to those that still need this.
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    Player Smokinskull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raka View Post
    Did your friend use an Evasion build? Having 5/5+2 Raider's(Emp) gear or Twashtar doesn't really help w/ survivability for THF, with the exception of the Raider's Poulaines due to them donating 12~15 Agility and 9~11 Evasion.

    I can't say I've personally attempted to Evasion tank Atori-Tutori ???, but from what I've read so far...people seem to be throwing "Empyrean+2" sets out there as if they were a must for every situation, and that's not completely true. It's wise to have an Evasion build if you are a career Thief, Dancer, or Ninja just as it is to have a Shield skill build or MDT/PDT build for Paladin, etc..

    Ochain is helpful for this tons, this much is true, but it is not a "must". No offense intended, but I did not at all see this fight to be anywhere near "too hard" and like many posts before me said, there are items that you can farm to make the fight easier. So if it's really that hard, just take some more time to farm those items.

    Like I said though, 5/5 Emp+2 sets or Emp weapons aren't required, but do play a job you took the time to learn/skill/equip properly over something you just "AbysseaBurned" for Maat's Cap. Seen this mistake already many times.

    Good luck to those that still need this.

    Your cool lol, Im glad other people agree with me.
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    Player Logandor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raka View Post
    Did your friend use an Evasion build? Having 5/5+2 Raider's(Emp) gear or Twashtar doesn't really help w/ survivability for THF, with the exception of the Raider's Poulaines due to them donating 12~15 Agility and 9~11 Evasion.

    I can't say I've personally attempted to Evasion tank Atori-Tutori ???, but from what I've read so far...people seem to be throwing "Empyrean+2" sets out there as if they were a must for every situation, and that's not completely true. It's wise to have an Evasion build if you are a career Thief, Dancer, or Ninja just as it is to have a Shield skill build or MDT/PDT build for Paladin, etc..

    Ochain is helpful for this tons, this much is true, but it is not a "must". No offense intended, but I did not at all see this fight to be anywhere near "too hard" and like many posts before me said, there are items that you can farm to make the fight easier. So if it's really that hard, just take some more time to farm those items.

    Like I said though, 5/5 Emp+2 sets or Emp weapons aren't required, but do play a job you took the time to learn/skill/equip properly over something you just "AbysseaBurned" for Maat's Cap. Seen this mistake already many times.

    Good luck to those that still need this.
    He didn't say but I do think if he did he may have forgotten it at the last moment to tell me or something. He just said "don't try it with your thf empy outfit it costed me my win when I had gone." I hope he had tried an eva set but sense he didn't say anything I am not sure. >.< Though he did message me about 30 minutes ago saying his blm managed to do nicely. Not sure the set-up he went with this time though.
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    Player Lukielucas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logandor View Post
    A friend of mine just informed me he went in on his 95 thf (fully capped in merits/skills) +2 empy gear, empy weapon and twilight dagger. ;.; He got crushed and said for me to not even bother taking my thf in at all because it was a total waste. Now if some one else went in with their thf in decent gear with decent knives and lived to win can you please share your set up. I am still farming the items. I got my one stone but the other stuff is being elusive over here on Carby server at least to this thf.
    The way we did it, was SMN, BLU, BLU, THF, DNC, MNK (used perfect defense method) and when it worn, I (being 95THF) would boost my enmity from stealing enmity from the person who has the hate and then use Perfect Dodge while the rest carried on zerging him, that how we won without items

    and my gears were in TP build
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    Player Logandor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukielucas View Post
    The way we did it, was SMN, BLU, BLU, THF, DNC, MNK (used perfect defense method) and when it worn, I (being 95THF) would boost my enmity from stealing enmity from the person who has the hate and then use Perfect Dodge while the rest carried on zerging him, that how we won without items

    and my gears were in TP build
    Okay that sounds like a fun set up. thank you. I think we may try this one and if it does not work me in eva setup too even if I have to swap mid fight for us.
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