[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Runespider]

This is my biggest concern.

Someone obviously put a lot of time and heart into these skills. It shows. They're gorgeous.

Why spoil all of that hard work by making the WS weak?

Balance, there is a reason they look awesome.

They can't make the new WS too strong, same as some of the new "top tier" gear. So what do they do, they make them glowy/pretty or they make the flashy so people want them. It works too.

I can't believe people are actually suprised, the last interview blatantly pointed out what their goals are now (balance) and you are shocked when stuff comes out that is just that?

[Economizer]

Balance, there is a reason they look awesome.

If the intention is to make them suck, but require us to merit them for merit dumps, I'd think they'd allow us to merit more then three to full amounts. The majority of players would fully merit them in time, even if they were a bit on the weaker side if they filled a fair amount of utility and looked cool. But with the 15 merit point allocation limit, people have to choose, which results in wanting to have the best damage dealing WS regardless of all other factors.

It is a stupid limit, regardless of their intentions, but even less prudent in the face of making many of them weaker. If having them all is really a balance issue, just increase the amount of merits required for successive amounts which essentially means having more then three takes a significant amount of effort... much like many super weapons!

[Urteil]

LV 60 WS > LV 90 WS.

100 Merits for an Non-Elemental Sword WS that does terrible damage? KILL ALL THE SLIMES.
100 Merits for a Scythe WS that recovers MP that isn't used? DARK KNIGHT SPIRIT TAKER.
100 Merits for [insert-WS-here] that will never be used over [insert-WS-from-2006-here]. POINTLESS DEVELOPMENT.



100 Merits for another overpowered Samurai WS that is the only great addition thus far?

100 Merits for WS's that took amazing time to make that will never get used?

[xiozen]

Being lazy does not provide grounds to exempt Empyrean weaponskills from your listings. They are the superior weaponskills in most or every situation, there's no getting around that. Many to most players do in fact have at least one Empyrean weapon, the lazy minority is not a model to work an entire argument around.

Empyrean weaponskills are the standard.

What you YOU smoking? Emp. weaponskills are "NOT" the standard... get off your box-cart, your highness...

[Runespider]

LV 60 WS > LV 90 WS.

Why are people shocked, level 60 ws have beaten everything always (unless you count Aby content which they said was a mistake), they even beat relic ws for years.

[Arcon]

Guess what job I play in 2011, going on '12 currently with a weapon that I obtained in a mere two months compared to the two and a half years I took to complete my relic back before Abyssea.

You apparently just don't know how to play your job. Also, it seems logic isn't really your thing. Since you linked your account, I assume you think a relic makes you good (which is wrong).

You're one of those paladins without Ochain or even Almace that full times 5/5 Creed +2 because it's good, am I right.

Wrong. Also, irrelevant to the discussion.

[IronPandemonium]

irrelevant to the discussion.

I'd save face like that too if I got called out like how it actually was; regardless, feel free to correct me on how to play my job any better than right now with perfected gear, because I'm clearly doing something wrong when none of my great katana weapon skills can average above 1,500 damage on anything relevant in the game (even with full buffs), whereas Ukko's does that average without even a single buff (and can spike upward of 4k).

But hey, obviously Shoha needs to go, since people like you are clearly afraid of a [currently] second-rate job being just a tad bit better than before (and still not outperforming warrior by any means).

[Laxedrane]

Man I have to agree with everyone else here.. Nerfing Realmrazor has to be one of the worse moves right now. Is it a strong weaponskill? Yes. Can other DDs potentially outdamage whm with it? Oh hell yes. As a whm. I. Really. Don't. Care.


Very few other jobs will be able to produce the Mind necessary to beat a whm on sheer weaponskill damage alone. Only paladin maybe has enough access to good clubs to compete with whms with clubs. Double attack gear won't matter becuase if your dual wielding your already at swing cap. So what do we have to worry about as whms? Plds? Well they have higher skill in club so they are acceptable at out damaging a white mage.

So what are they worried about? It actually competing with other weapon classes? It being better then the "Ultimate" skills on club? Cause 1 doesn't do damage at all, the other your lucky if it clears 300 damage outside of abyss and rangrith? Heh, don't make me laugh. So what are they trying to balance it against? Are they just simply under the ideology that "Mage class weapons" shouldn't have the potential to be able to compete with other weapon classes?

I really hope they re-consider.

[CrAZYVIC]

Tak You dont remember which is the main job of your buddy in Siren? Oh yeah Sam and its me fuck you ^_^. No more love for you in the rest of month <3.

I know a lot of people is suffering atm because the weapons skills for their jobs sux.

I will explain more in deep What can do our little new ToY Tachi destroyShoha

The new Weapon Skill for Samurai as Career sam i only can say this. "SE love us" A 4 hit Kikugasu build can parse equal a 5 hit Masamune fudo... Spam Tachi Shoha every 12 - 15 secs will be too "Overpowered".

For expain more deep this. A 4 hit Kikogasu with good sam merits. Can have a WS frecuently almost Similar a Soboro.... But this time the samurai dont will spam ws 300 damage. This time the Samurai will Spam WS of 3000 and 3700 damage -_-. Not enough for start see how overpowered this shit is? ^_^? "Yes my 6 hit ukovansara buddy you can fear too"

kikogasu 4 hit build will be the new modern minimiun efforts = x2 damage improvement.

So you are a Sam Career just shut up and support to the other players for receive a buff in their new Weapon skills.

Tak knows his Shit in FFXI. i Agree with him, Sam get too much love by the devs

[IronPandemonium]

Well, I never thought there was a second Kuroganashi, until now.

Someone hold me.