[dev1049] New weapon skills

[Nightfyre]

I find it incredibly hard to believe that the JP would be in favor of nerfing all the WS.

From what I've heard, a lot of them are upset too.

[Keinn]

Most of the people that spoke in complaint underneath Mocchi's post got 60-100 rate ups.

[Prothscar]

I think he just meant he cared why they were doing all this dumb bullcrap.

This.

/10char

[Monchat]

The Dev's "balance" attitude is starting to piss me off. FF14's failure was not enough, they keep failing with 11. Clearly balance means not releasing something stronger than what already exits; they proved it with lv 95 update, and now those mostly useless WS; at least they dont nerf shijin spiral ... crossing fingers because it makes spharai the #1 MNK weapon.

Idk who those JPs are that tested asuran fists to be stronger than shijin spiral. The same JPs that test counter rate on spharai with a sample of 50? lol

Can't wait for the merit related relic+2s, can't wait for more balance.

I want to believe.jpg too

( this update is going to be more underwhelming than lv 95 one)

[Prothscar]

An explanation is in order. Don't feed me that mother fucking "balance" bullshit, we all know that's just a cover story now that your precious "PS2 Limitations" has been dispelled. All you're doing is fucking us over, the loyal paying customers, some of which have been playing for 9 or so years, dangling new pretties in front of us, making them somewhat passable; then we ask for them to be slightly increased in power to make them worthwhile and you instead nerf everything.

What in the fuck is wrong with you SE? Seriously, what have we done other than pay you year after year while simultaneously getting buttfucked?

We're not going to leave FFXI and play FFXIV if you make FFXI shittier than ever. If anything, it'll piss us off so much that we'll never subscribe to one of your games again.

[Luvbunny]

I'd say something about how you want us to be annoyed and quit to head over to XIV, but hey, that sucks even more :/ I would think since we're theoretically paying for the development (read: correction) of XIV, the dev team might actually use our input. I find it incredibly hard to believe that the JP would be in favor of nerfing all the WS.

I think that is their reasoning - nerf, "balanced" and keep adding utter craps for FFXI so that the players quit in droves to FF14. But the retards do not understand that this taint the brand image of FF in general. So my first reaction would be "SE is bad as company and creating inferior products" hence I should no longer purchase any of their games at full price and wait until it hit the bargain bins - here is looking at you FFXIII-2 (was looking forward to buy but now will just wait till the price is reduced). In any case - vote with your wallet, the next few updates look like utter garbage anyway so there is no reason to continue paying after this month if you don't like what you see.

[Kalilla]

Most of the people that spoke in complaint underneath Mocchi's post got 60-100 rate ups.

lol yea, was just mentioning it.

On that note...

I'm not sure what he said but people like it.

[Finuve]

ya know SE you could have at least taken me out to dinner first, I prefer to be wined and dined before I get...

[wish12oz]

Let me get this straight. You want players to invest 1,000,000 xp for a weapon skill so they can deal mediocre, yet consistent, damage but if they want to deal "large amounts" of damage, they should continue to use a weapon skill that is eight years old and is available by natural skill at level 55? On what plane of reality does this make any sense whatsoever? You've given the thought process that went into nerfing these weapon skills but I want to hear the how the dev team justifies such a heavy cost in time for a weapon skill that is less effective at damage dealing than ones we already have.

If these weapon skills were based off natural skill, I would be cool with consistent damage and situational uses. When the cost is 10>15>20>25>30 merit progression, I'm not so forgiving. This is bullshit and quite frankly should be acquired with natural skill or scrapped altogether.

The utter contempt exhibited by these devs in their refusal to actually provide a suitable reward for time invested by players makes me feel stupid for giving SE money every month. Their fear of actually offering meaningful progression baffles me.

An explanation is in order. Don't feed me that mother fucking "balance" bullshit, we all know that's just a cover story now that your precious "PS2 Limitations" has been dispelled. All you're doing is fucking us over, the loyal paying customers, some of which have been playing for 9 or so years, dangling new pretties in front of us, making them somewhat passable; then we ask for them to be slightly increased in power to make them worthwhile and you instead nerf everything.

What in the fuck is wrong with you SE? Seriously, what have we done other than pay you year after year while simultaneously getting buttfucked?

We're not going to leave FFXI and play FFXIV if you make FFXI shittier than ever. If anything, it'll piss us off so much that we'll never subscribe to one of your games again.

Quoting this because it should really be said again.

Why the hell are you adding new weapon skills that require such a huge amount of work to acquire, and limiting the number of them you can have, when they're not as good as shit you naturally get 25 or 35 levels earlier? This is just plain stupid.

[Vold]

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WS who made the motion, I think people are allowed but the balance Bun殴Tsu

Is what came up for me. I wish translate didn't suck. I also wish all those English Japanese speaking jokers online in game that seem like they're everywhere actually hung out here so they could inform us wtf is going on over on the JP forums time from time. I know one personally but he felt like quitting for a new job he picked up after finishing high school. I mean seriously wtf is THAT all about? Stupid jobs and money.