Dynamis

[Ihnako]

Regardless what your GM said or not - claiming a staggered mob isn't stealing cause you don't have the ability to let it be claimed (and there are jobs that can hold several mobs claimed)
So in my eyes - if someone "steals" your/my staggered mob - it's your/my fault and you/I don't have to complain about it.

And for those people who didn't understood my previous posting ;p has a clear meaning - google it if you don't know!

[Nynja]

and there are jobs that can hold several mobs claimed

no there arent... prove me wrong.

There is no need for more mobs... there are 100's of them now... people are just lazy and only want to fight 1 mob family in the CoP zones, or stay in 1 spot in cities. it definitely isn't a matter of getting relic that's for sure, because you should have gotten at least 90% of it by now.

Half of it is a matter of convenience or sheer inability to fight:
In valk, on bronze time you can either fight Hippos, Sabotenders who do 10k needle (good luck surviving that in any trio environment) or Sheep who are a 2 minute run away. Pick one...

i cant help it that we can kill more EP than DC~

While its not a huge change, there is a higher drop rate on EM/T mobs over EP. a group of 5/6 should be able to decimate the T camps, meaning theres no competition to deal with, so you should wind up with more kills over time, and more currency.

Perhaps its that you cant help sucking?

[Unleashhell]

Half of it is a matter of convenience or sheer inability to fight:
In valk, on bronze time you can either fight Hippos, Sabotenders who do 10k needle (good luck surviving that in any trio environment) or Sheep who are a 2 minute run away. Pick one...

So why do that zone? There are other CoP zones you can go to for OBronze. That doesnt hold water.

[FrankReynolds]

So why do that zone? There are other CoP zones you can go to for OBronze. That doesnt hold water.

So the plan is to ask everyone in the zone if your camp is open and then go somewhere else if it's not?

[Unleashhell]

So the plan is to ask everyone in the zone if your camp is open and then go somewhere else if it's not?

Why would you have to ask anyone? Just go in and kill mobs >.>

[FrankReynolds]

Why would you have to ask anyone? Just go in and kill mobs >.>

You said to do a different zone. How am I gonna know there's not someone in the camp I want in the other zone as well?

Any mage job.

Lol ok, good luck with that.

[Nynja]

So why do that zone? There are other CoP zones you can go to for OBronze. That doesnt hold water.

It was an EXAMPLE...but hey I'll lay out qufim and buburimu too

Buburimu: for Bronze you can either do Bunnies which are easy, Mandies which have dumb aoe nightmare sleep and terror, and efts which are 2 minutes away across the map. Then when Byne time comes around, you're either doing a camp of ~10 crawlers (which me 3boxing can almost clear out on my own) or running 90 seconds over to ravens...or you can do Uragunites, good luck with that even with a full alliance of 18.

Qufim is just a mess...but every time shift, you're going to have to make a 2 minute run to hit next viable camp. I personally do Tigers>Snolls>Rocs + try for WS procs when the 3 rocs are down. But its a loss of currency cause WS procs are so rare. Ideally the best set seems to be Bats>trip bats>Raptors...but thats the most popular set cause it involves easy mobs in "close" proximity so its always full.

Probably stems from the fact that BST has become the flavor of the month job for dynamis because it's so easy to walk in and get a good amount of coins with not that much effort. They see a bunch of BSTS in dynamis and believe that if only all those damn scrubs weren't there, they could be getting all the coins they were by right entitled to. If it weren't for all those damn BSTS, dynamis wouldn't be so congested!
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I find it hilarious that even after someone from the OP's linkshell clarifies that it isn't a case of a solo BST holding a ton of mobs, but a small group, the thread still rolls on venting about big bad BSTs.

Lets be honest here, when you're in dynamis and someones making an attempt to fight 4 mobs at once, what job are they usually on?

And as its been covered, if a party of 5 cant manage to keep 5 mobs claimed, they REALLY deserve to have their mobs jacked. I can competently keep 3 mobs claimed when I'm 3boxing dynamis...5 people NOT multiboxing cant manage to keep 5 mobs claimed? Really? suck less bro...

[Aldersyde]

Lets be honest here, when you're in dynamis and someones making an attempt to fight 4 mobs at once, what job are they usually on?

And as its been covered, if a party of 5 cant manage to keep 5 mobs claimed, they REALLY deserve to have their mobs jacked. I can competently keep 3 mobs claimed when I'm 3boxing dynamis...5 people NOT multiboxing cant manage to keep 5 mobs claimed? Really? suck less bro...

A little late to the response here but I've seen all types of job setups and soloists indulge in the same behavior that you seem totally convinced that bsts are the biggest offenders of. I have seen bsts do it, but I've also seen thfs, dncs, and nins do it as well. I've seen a nin (with whm support) run around the krakens in qufim, trying to agro the lot of them and then get pissy with me because I actually claimed one (seemed that he believed just because he agroed them, he had some kind of ironclad claim to them). I've seen, on a fairly regular basis, 5-6 people from a certain reputable end game ls on siren, do the same thing with ep manticores and hippos in their JA time (really, with 5-6 people,why the hell are you competing with tons of other people when you could do em-ts just as comfortably). I see this type of behavior every day in dynamis and it's not bst exclusive. I've seen your hardcore whining about bsts in the neo-dynamis thread on bg and post "psa"s on the bst forums here, so I'm pretty convinced you're selectively biased to recognize the behavior only when they do it and are incapable of acknowledging when people who are on other jobs do it.

[Ihnako]

no there arent... prove me wrong.

Any mage job.

[Nynja]

Any mage job.

Show me a screenshot of you solo with multiple mobs CLAIMED and I'll suck my own dick.