Dynamis

[Lojinxx]

How about SE do something about the dynamis making it where other players cant claim mobs that have been attacked by a player .......maybe making multiple mobs show in red so other players {jp players do this alot} cant take mobs we have worked hard to proc

You used to be able to hold as many mobs as you wanted and they would all stay red. It wasn't until a patch that SE changed this so you can only hold one mob, mainly because of people like you. They've already fixed the problem. The problem was people hoarding mobs. Thank you SE.

Now as far as holding mobs goes, I don't see anything wrong with having two mobs. It's efficient farming to begin on another mob as the other mob is being killed by a pet. That way your pet is ALWAYS attacking something and you're the only one running around with downtime. People who take mobs off of you when you only have 2 mobs are asshats, especially if you've already proc'd on the yellow mob. On the other hand, anything more than 2 mobs is selfish and pointless...plain and simple.

[Eldelphia]

I steer clear of BST in dyna when I can but recently it's impossible. I get that they're great farmers in there and on some levels I don't see the issue. However, I give them allowance for 2 mobs and maybe a 3rd if it linked. If you're sitting on 4-5 AND there are no others up, well I'm going to take them from you. If you're stupid enough to proc them all, then you'll fall foul of people I know who will wait and fell cleave. I don't do that but I know people who do.

RIght now BST is job de Jour in Dynamis. Wait for the new content and the new shinies and then see what happens. Dyna is about to get crazy again in a new way, with people farming for relic +2 items.

[Mikumaru]

I normally dont jump in on these type thread but Walk and i are in the Same LS and he isnt talking Hoarding MObs as a solo BST . he talking about when we go to Dynamis as a group . Going in with 5+ people . pulling 5-8 Mobs (something a group like this can handle easily) staggering them individually (since there is a time limit before stagger changes) then focusing on a single mob . we can Stagger and a kill a group of 8 in less than 5 minutes . with 5 people we Average 300+ coins run(Vs a Solo BST doing 120 +/- 15) . This is a co-operative game still . when we have 6 or more ppl come we hit the DC-T monsters . It's a huge annoyance when any player , BSt or other wise, come and tries to take already Staggered mobs . The GMs i have talked to about this call this a grief tactic , which is illegal by the EUA . Taking monsters not staggered , not so much . You wanna say this hoarding then try being less of a jerk and try takin the mobs before they get staggered . Or find some friends and complete that relic in 1/3rd the time . Not doin a weapon and farmin for gil ? Sorry then , but we're not selling our coins . We're makin Weapons .
I agree that Square should change the Stagger rates . Its so hard to stagger mobs on anything but Job Abilities (how many spells and Weapon Skills Vs how many Job Abilities?) of course this is the obvious choice when farming coins . Personally , i feel this addition to Dynamis is unwarranted and a complete annoyance in and that of it's self . The old Russian Roulette style was far more fun and rewarding . Especially now that it's an open area where groups can interact with one another , poor judgement call Square . If it was Locked like before the change , this stagger addition would be a great call . Now , not so much .

[Brolic]

I normally dont jump in on these type thread but Walk and i are in the Same LS and he isnt talking Hoarding MObs as a solo BST . he talking about when we go to Dynamis as a group . Going in with 5+ people . pulling 5-8 Mobs (something a group like this can handle easily) staggering them individually (since there is a time limit before stagger changes) then focusing on a single mob . we can Stagger and a kill a group of 8 in less than 5 minutes . with 5 people we Average 300+ coins run(Vs a Solo BST doing 120 +/- 15) . This is a co-operative game still . when we have 6 or more ppl come we hit the DC-T monsters . It's a huge annoyance when any player , BSt or other wise, come and tries to take already Staggered mobs . The GMs i have talked to about this call this a grief tactic , which is illegal by the EUA . Taking monsters not staggered , not so much . You wanna say this hoarding then try being less of a jerk and try takin the mobs before they get staggered . Or find some friends and complete that relic in 1/3rd the time . Not doin a weapon and farmin for gil ? Sorry then , but we're not selling our coins . We're makin Weapons .
I agree that Square should change the Stagger rates . Its so hard to stagger mobs on anything but Job Abilities (how many spells and Weapon Skills Vs how many Job Abilities?) of course this is the obvious choice when farming coins . Personally , i feel this addition to Dynamis is unwarranted and a complete annoyance in and that of it's self . The old Russian Roulette style was far more fun and rewarding . Especially now that it's an open area where groups can interact with one another , poor judgement call Square . If it was Locked like before the change , this stagger addition would be a great call . Now , not so much .

suck less

also does this make sense
5:300
1:120

[Aldersyde]

I normally dont jump in on these type thread but Walk and i are in the Same LS and he isnt talking Hoarding MObs as a solo BST . he talking about when we go to Dynamis as a group . Going in with 5+ people . pulling 5-8 Mobs (something a group like this can handle easily) staggering them individually (since there is a time limit before stagger changes) then focusing on a single mob . we can Stagger and a kill a group of 8 in less than 5 minutes . with 5 people we Average 300+ coins run(Vs a Solo BST doing 120 +/- 15) . This is a co-operative game still . when we have 6 or more ppl come we hit the DC-T monsters . It's a huge annoyance when any player , BSt or other wise, come and tries to take already Staggered mobs . The GMs i have talked to about this call this a grief tactic , which is illegal by the EUA . Taking monsters not staggered , not so much . You wanna say this hoarding then try being less of a jerk and try takin the mobs before they get staggered . Or find some friends and complete that relic in 1/3rd the time . Not doin a weapon and farmin for gil ? Sorry then , but we're not selling our coins . We're makin Weapons .
I agree that Square should change the Stagger rates . Its so hard to stagger mobs on anything but Job Abilities (how many spells and Weapon Skills Vs how many Job Abilities?) of course this is the obvious choice when farming coins . Personally , i feel this addition to Dynamis is unwarranted and a complete annoyance in and that of it's self . The old Russian Roulette style was far more fun and rewarding . Especially now that it's an open area where groups can interact with one another , poor judgement call Square . If it was Locked like before the change , this stagger addition would be a great call . Now , not so much .

Thanks for clarifying the job situation. People saw a bst making the thread and they automatically assumed it was solo bst hogging mobs when everyday I see groups like yours trying to keep claimed every mob in area. People should assume less.

Sorry, If I have no mob to fight and you're trying to hold 5-8 mobs, yes, I am taking a yellow one. My time's as valuable as yours.

[Mikumaru]

yes it does because doin something with friends , much more fun than playing with yourself . tho i am sure you like that .(pun intended)

[Brolic]

yes it does because doin something with friends , much more fun than playing with yourself . tho i am sure you like that .(pun intended)

i'm still failing to see how 5 people cant keep 5 mobs claimed,

suck less.

[Mikumaru]

i'm still failing to see how 5 people cant keep 5 mobs claimed,

suck less.

we proc then focus on one . 3/4 people kills one mob faster than soloing it , again you know this had you any friends .

[Tiddlypeep]

we proc then focus on one . 3/4 people kills one mob faster than soloing it , again you know this had you any friends .

i'm sorry i have to agree with Brolic, if u cant keep mobs claimed with 5-6 of u then seriously suck less, i do dyna with 4-5 ppl, we pull 4-5 mobs keep them all claimed and walk out with 400+ coins on average, and seeing as ur talking about solid math has it not occurred to u that proc'ing a mob then killing it before moving onto another is actually faster than proc'ing 5 mobs then 5 dd killing 1 mob at a time? 5 dd pull 5 mobs and kill a mob each is much faster than 5 dd pull 5 mobs, proc all then disengage, reengage 1 mob kill > switch mob > kill > switch mob > rinse > repeat

[Mikumaru]

lemme go solo and do 120 coins a run , taking 150 runs(days) to get the 18,000 i need to complete a relic vs 300 coins a run which will get that same 18,000 in 60 runs (days) sounds like solid math to me . In the time it takes you to complete 1 weapon by yourself , cuz you have no friends , we'll have 2 done and be pretty close to completing our 3rd . i would say take your own advice and suck less at making friends .