Since no one seems to have posted yet: Final LB fight

[ShadowHeart]

the pooor pain of the new people 6 months from now when the current rush > 99 is done i helped 3 people this week shouting in port to try and get lb 1 and lb2 done as it is free not like the money grubbers that will come around for 99

[Cybernetic_Empire]

Many of the fanbase are casuals, making an very hard battle will just cause a lot of people to quit. The way the game is heading, many people are on the fence. And before saying, well see ya, many of these people keep this game from not getting cancelled.

What's a casual player going to be able to accomplish at 99 that they won't be able to at 95? If you're casual and you can't win the battle then it really shouldn't bother you. If it does bother you seeing others at level 99, then take an hour to read a wiki, do a shout, and try it again. Don't come here whining about how hard it's going to be because you read somewhere that only Ochain PLD's can help you win it. Also, to whoever suggested that it should be easier than the Maat fight can shove it. Why should fighting Maat's master be easier? This battle sounds like the perfect kind of challenge before we ascend to level 99. So, Devs, reverse your reversal. Seriously.

[Vold]

Now see this is why I say people treat the test server as a PREVIEW SERVER and not a test server.

Anyway I want a challenge myself but I refuse to presume I know what's going on because I'm part of the 99.999% who hasn't tried the BC fight on the test server. Even if it stayed as is the thing is already easy as far as I am concerned. Weak HP pool and you have to deal with hundred fists. Whoa I'm scared I've never dealt with HF mobs before, whatever will I do. That's the impression I get from watching a video of it. PET PT, co tank PT, RNG shadowbind in PT, THF perfect dodge in PT, RDM chainspell stun in PT, BLU stun lock, call it a day. Or if it's going to resist stuff then pet pt or have a THF to accomp the tank and PD it. What's the worst that can happen?

[Economizer]

Don't come here whining about how hard it's going to be because you read somewhere that only Ochain PLD's can help you win it.

I have no clue how people came to the conclusion you needed an Ochain Paladin. I've watched some videos of this fight, mainly the ones here of the three people who went in with a Paladin, a Beastmaster and a Red Mage and wiped, and one of a Beastmaster solo.

If a Beastmaster can solo the fight - even using a ton of Dawn Mulsum - then a balanced party can take this thing down by paying attention.

Easy strat: WHM, RDM or BRD, two tanks and two DD.
Slightly harder strat: RDM or BRD, any other healer, two tanks and two DD.
Even harder strat: RDM, WHM, PLD, any DD.
lolstrat: SMN + SAMx5.

[Zumi]

Whoever said you need a PLD with Ochain is wrong. It only thing Ochain does is make the fight really easy. I am sure most party set ups could beat it without that much trouble assuming they know how to play.

[Venat]

Howdy!

I have a bit of information to share with you regarding the final limit break quest.

Battle Balance
We’re currently making adjustments to the battle so that you don’t need to have a full party of six members to win. This doesn’t mean it will be “easy”, but there will be more victories as a result of the change.

We have seen feedback from those that would like a battle and those that think a battle is unnecessary. As a result of looking over everyone’s opinions, we decided it would be good to create a battlefield that wasn’t as tough as the Maat fight, but have you all take on a slight challenge to differentiate this as the final limit break quest.

Congestion
Some players have been worried about possible battlefield congestion. We’ll be adding a step to this quest that will require players to obtain an item before actually entering the battlefield, which should stagger the amount of players entering at once. Also, in regards to suggestions that say to offer different battlefields, each one has different sizes as well as different entrance/exits, so this would create a bottleneck because players would select the easiest area. After testing various areas out we decided to go with the Qu’Bia Arena.

Helping Others
You won’t need to obtain the entry item when helping others. We’re also in the process of preparing an NPC that will teleport you to battlefields located in original areas as a reward for completing the final limit break quest.

Is there something in the works for a Maat Cap version2? Completion of all lv75 & lv99 Battles for each Job? I would like to see something creative like a "New" Fight when competing all the fights. A Maat maybe that can use all Abilities and Spells...? I would also like to see it be a 6 group fight.

[Kraggy]

Battle Balance
We’re currently making adjustments to the battle so that you don’t need to have a full party of six members to win.

Terrible, terrible idea. >.<

LBs that require groups are a terrible idea, this is a CHARACTER progression event, you shouldn't need others' help. G2 should have been the last time we saw this terrible idea.

[Kraggy]

One fundamental problem with this: unlike back in the day, when everyone of a particular job could reasonably be expected to have the same gear, now there's a huge disparity in gear some casual 95s will have compared with the hardcore.

Balance the fight for casuals and the hardcore QQ, balance it for the hardcore and the casuals won't stand a chance.

Fail idea to make this a group fight in the context of the itemisation the game has now. If it were a solo fight it could be tuned to the gear the player has.

Also, some 95s like me aren't decked out in Aby phat lewt, so what chance of getting into groups will I have, given the elitism this game is riddled with?

[Kraggy]

Do you guys remember most of the classic limit breaks took groups to do. the 55 one took an alliance even during classic FFXI.

Yes, it was a damned stupid idea back then, too .. that just makes it a 'classic stupid idea'.

[Babekeke]

If they're going to make it 'easy' and you want a challenge... solo it.
In fact, they should give it a 1 person limit, but if you fail, you can take 2 people the second time, 3 the 3rd time, 4 the 4th time etc. Shouldn't actually become easy until the 5th or 6th time.
The only problems with making it hard is that the more people fail, the more people are trying to do/redo the fight and the more lag there will be.