Adjust ??? spawn times in Sea from 15 minutes to 3 minutes PLEASE!

[Soranika]

An arbitrary 15 minute wait adds nothing to the game and serves only to degrade the overall experience of the game. If you can't wrap your heads around that simple reality then I really don't know what else to say.

Then anything that has you sitting around waiting to do something is arbitrary and does nothing for the game, which would be nearly everything that set FFXI apart from generic stuff out there. I don't play FFXI for instant gratification or I would have stopped a long time ago. Or other MMOs that would have you do something arbitrary like collecting certain items of great quantity for an item that that has no other benefit than aesthetic purposes.

[Kimikryo]

sure you can add that in your signature

Sometimes I have to wait 10-20 minutes for an NM to respawn in abyssea.
The Mobs surrounding that NM dont drop anything worth the while, and it could happen that I lose the NM to someone else, so I just idle around, doing nothing. What DO I do you ask?
I turn on my TV, watching shows, playing skyrim, playing FFXI on my secondary account, going to the kitchen fetching some food, going to the toilet, or chatting with friends. I dont cry because I have to wait.

In my sky days:
Popped god, killed god, waited for ??? to respawn. When I was a mage, I idled around, scratched my ass, and had fun with chatting.
Farmed Items, no item dropped for several hours, we decide to quit for the day. I am annoyed at the dioshites, annoyed we didnt get to fight an nm, annoyed we have to do that again.
Farmed Items, get pop sets, pop nm, wait for respawn, hide in a corner so random weapons dont kill us, repop nm, rinse repeat.

Nobody was whining about the ??? not poping as soon as the nm dropped dead. We were happy to make a short break. If you want to happen everyting in seconds and no waiting, ... not even WoW is something for you because "nms" there repop even less often (rare mobs) quest "nms" sometimes take minutes to reload, espacially if it is a NPC you have to kill for whatever reason. MMORPGs arent meant to be quick quick, they are meant to be timesinks. Be happy that SE at least tries to include good a good story.

[cidbahamut]

Then anything that has you sitting around waiting to do something is arbitrary and does nothing for the game, which would be nearly everything that set FFXI apart from generic stuff out there.

I've got a game you'll love then. It's called Sitting Around Not Doing Anything (SANDA). It's platform independent, absolutely free and blows FFXI out of the water. You should be playing it instead. I think you'll find it's perfectly tailored to what you're looking for in a game.

[Camiie]

If it's "shitty" game design, why stick around to begin with? I'm up for changes, but like I said before, the day the game no longer give me that sense of accomplishment and achievement, I'm bouncing. I'm sure everyone else will just like to pay to have their things handed to them, I didn't join or continue to play FFXI for that.

Waiting 15 minutes is hard. No, I'm sorry, it's "time consuming and boring"~ Give me a break.

How does the 15 minute timer add to your sense of accomplishment and achievement? Your sea event takes longer sure, but that could have been accomplished by giving the mobs more HP and higher defense and damage resistances.

How is that 15 minute timer keeping people from being handed things (which is a flawed premise to begin with)? Does standing around waiting for a ??? really change something from "faceroll" to "hardcore?" Of course it doesn't. The fight is the same. Waiting is just waiting. It serves no purpose, especially in content that grows increasingly less relevant as time goes on. Especially where the repop timer is longer than the fight itself. It doesn't even take 15 minutes to kill Absolute Virtue now. Heck, it doesn't even take 2.

What's funny is, as mentioned, sky has the lowered repop timers and its gear and abjurations have recently become more relevant with the new augments available. Sea gear hasn't changed at all, but it's still being treated as though it's top of the line endgame content. A lot of it is still very useful, of course, but not to the extent it once was. It should at least be treated as sky gear is now.

[Soranika]

I've got a game you'll love then. It's called Sitting Around Not Doing Anything (SANDA). It's platform independent, absolutely free and blows FFXI out of the water. You should be playing it instead. I think you'll find it's perfectly tailored to what you're looking for in a game.

You miss the part where I mentioned I do stuff during down time between spawn times to stay occupied. I know, must be a horrible concept for you to understand. So is taking a break every 30mins-hour when playing for extended periods of time, which is advised. Must be very horrible indeed.

[Soranika]

It doesn't even take 15 minutes to kill Absolute Virtue now. Heck, it doesn't even take 2.

You do remember you have to fight JoL before AV, right?

What's funny is, as mentioned, sky has the lowered repop timers and its gear and abjurations have recently become more relevant with the new augments available. Sea gear hasn't changed at all, but it's still being treated as though it's top of the line endgame content. A lot of it is still very useful, of course, but not to the extent it once was. It should at least be treated as sky gear is now.

It's funny you skipped over me conceding on the actual argument.

[cidbahamut]

You miss the part where I mentioned I do stuff during down time between spawn times to stay occupied. I know, must be a horrible concept for you to understand. So is taking a break every 30mins-hour when playing for extended periods of time, which is advised. Must be very horrible indeed.

Yes, because when your group finishes their first NM and is ready for the second what they really want is to have to sit around with their thumb up their ass for another 15 minutes for no bloody reason.

[Soranika]

Yes, because when your group finishes their first NM and is ready for the second what they really want is to have to sit around with their thumb up their ass for another 15 minutes for no bloody reason.

-shrugs- That's my problem? I've never done Sea cause I personally wanted to do it, it was because my friends or LS wanted to and I just offer my assistance.

I knew about the 15 spawn time cause they done it more than I have. If they can't find something to do during the down time, that sounds like much more of a personal problem. But in discussion with some old ls mates, they don't seem to care, but they expect timers to be reduced anyway.

[Brolic]

Yes, because when your group finishes their first NM and is ready for the second what they really want is to have to sit around with their thumb up their ass for another 15 minutes for no bloody reason.

they want to thumb their bums for a sense of accomplishment, duhhhh

[Soranika]

they want to thumb their bums for a sense of accomplishment, duhhhh

Because when people like you complain about something, it makes me feel better that I overcame the obstacle that's really just a minor issue. That's where my sense of accomplishment comes from.