Adjust ??? spawn times in Sea from 15 minutes to 3 minutes PLEASE!

[Alhanelem]

Slightly less shitty game design is still shitty game design.

It's not shitty game design any more than any other MMO has shitty game design. This shittiness is precieved by the industry to be a requirement to keep people playing/addicted.

The game's clientele has aged and many of its players have busier lives than when they started playing. That much is for sure. SE has accommodated that to some degree. I'm sure even at the very first day of the game's launch, everyone would be totally happy if there was no wait time for anything whatsoever. But some wait times are necessary or your players tire of playing too quickly and you lose your player base (and therefore $$$)

Think about it- if every several minute and day-long delay was removed from the game, we would have all accomplished our current accomplishments a long time ago. We'd have beaten each piece of new content in a fraction of the time it originally took, and we'd be a lot more bored now than we would have been otherwise.

I'm not necessarily suggesting that this is a good thing, because everyone loves having more time in their lives, but that it's essentially a part of MMOs. Every MMO has things you can only do once every so often, in order to gate and pace progress.

[Atomic_Skull]

People still do sea?

[Morier]

Normaly I'd say "Boo you for saying quit the game if you want to change something" but

This isnt a "shitty game design". I do not know how they decided for 15 minutes, nor do I care. 15 Minutes are nothing. in Sea going afk for 15 minutes at a random place can still kill a 95. There are enough mobs to play with that also give exp and with some luck some drops for sea gear.

What IS falling under shitty game design, including areas that put one part to baby mode but puts others to ultra hard mode. Gaining levels is easy now, yes. Doing early genkais became harder thanks to the mobs that can easly kill a 95 in an area like Crawlers Nest. it takes of the fun part of doing early genkai. while it WAS annoying to get ancient papyrus and exoray mold thanks to low drops, now you need to watch out as helper not to get eaten by mobs that normaly would have been no problem

If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

You do not have to even see the high level mobs to get to exorays now for mold. They are up top, please know what you are talking about before you rant.

[FrankReynolds]

As the game progresses, older / less relevant content needs to be nerfed so that the reward still equals the investment. They have new time sinks now. they don't need you to spend 99 hours standing around in sea any more.

Reduce the timer already. Changes like this that make the game more player friendly, while hurting no one should be implemented. There's really no need for debate.

[Camiie]

You do remember you have to fight JoL before AV, right?

And you have to fight all the other NMs before you fight JOL. I'm well aware. Been there, done it, got some torques for it.


It's funny you skipped over me conceding on the actual argument.

I know all about JOL and AV. You have to kill all the other NMs before JOL as well. It doesn't change my point.

It seems you have come around to the other side. For that I give you all the credit in the world. The next paragraph won't be necessarily be aimed at you, but I do want to make the point.

I don't want easy mode or handouts. I just don't want the game bogged down by pointless waiting that doesn't add anything to the experience. I honestly wouldn't care if the mobs took longer to kill. If SE wants to delay me, they need to delay me in an engaging and entertaining way. It is a game. Engaging, interactive entertainment is what a game is all about.

[cidbahamut]

I don't want easy mode or handouts. I just don't want the game bogged down by pointless waiting that doesn't add anything to the experience. I honestly wouldn't care if the mobs took longer to kill. If SE wants to delay me, they need to delay me in an engaging and entertaining way. It is a game. Engaging, interactive entertainment is what a game is all about.

This.

Time sinks are fine to have, but dress it up, make it pretty and make it fun so it's part of the experience rather than just being told to sit in a corner and wait until an arbitrary amount of time has passed and I can have my next helping of enjoying the goddamn game.

[detlef]

I don't want easy mode or handouts. I just don't want the game bogged down by pointless waiting that doesn't add anything to the experience. I honestly wouldn't care if the mobs took longer to kill. If SE wants to delay me, they need to delay me in an engaging and entertaining way. It is a game. Engaging, interactive entertainment is what a game is all about.

I want handouts.

Also, streamlining older, obsolete content so that the payoff is still proportional to the time investment is an excellent point.

[Xellith]

Its funny.. people say not to change the timers... yea cuz standing around for 15 mins is..
1. fun.
2. enhances the difficulty?

morons...

[Metalgod]

I thank all of you who had something good to say about this topic. The rest just are bored and in need of something to do like trolling. Anyway I hope community team passes this along to the dev's. Been doing Sea events since when CoP was released and I still haven't had a good crack @ AV since the level cap increase due to a number of different things.

Again thank you!