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  1. #51
    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart View Post
    worrying about OA when there are other things that need to be fixed, which are much more important, seems like such a waste of time. I bet that taint will agree with me <_<

    OA could be deleted for all I care, thats not DRKs issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart View Post
    worrying about OA when there are other things that need to be fixed, which are much more important, seems like such a waste of time.
    There might be things more important then OA, like fixing X spell's formula, or getting X spell to fill out utility roles. There are lots of suggestions about those however, and a lot of them are good ideas, like fixing absorb spells, or getting Stun II, or whatever else.

    Anyways, if you think it is a waste of time, just ignore the suggestion and suggest something else, it isn't like DRK can't get both.
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    the point is that SE will see this and only fix something like this and not the other more glaring issues with drk. So we try to stop it before it starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    Aside from being able to reliably be brought down to about two minutes even by a barely competently geared Dark Knight, the spell would reliably give 100 TP in an instant, something even Konzen-ittai can't do. It would have more utility while still being something that is in the realm of a realistic spell Dark Knight would get.

    I'm not even saying it is the solution to everything, just a method to exploit Occult Acumen to its fullest (many of the other suggestions help fill out the other utility gaps) and make offensive spellcasting for Dark Knight more impressive. Maybe it isn't even the most impressive solution, but it is still a more realistic and better one to many of few alternatives that have been proposed for the offensive spellcasting / Occult Acumen void that many feel exists.

    There are solid suggestions for other things like Stun II or fixing absorb spells, I'm just trying to help shore up OA for when SE pokes around for suggestions.
    First off I was talking about Drain II recast timer, not some new spell that magically gives 100% tp.

    If the spell cost about 100mp near instant cast like holy it would reliably give around 20~ tp.
    Not asking for instant 100% tp.

    23~ tp in right gear.

    Also to fix OA just make it more potent, about 2-3x.


    If you bring up DRK magic then we'll be hybrid job of melee and magic. Its really stupid that the most effective way to play my job is never touching my spell list ever, not even ABSTP in prime setups because it just hurts DPS so bad.

    Granted this is just one example, but in reality its never better to not swing my apocalypse except maybe stun, and usually I make a BLU come from my LS and I don't even have to do that.

    What glaring issues with DRK melee? It already has better melee than it probably should: if it actually had competence and useful entropic/debilitating dark magic.

    The glaring issue with DRK is the yellow bar underneath the red one that is worthless.
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    Last edited by Urteil; 11-29-2011 at 11:40 PM.

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    Well DRKs! Looks like you get a 5hit on GS. Crit? Doubtful, but with all the QQ that goes on about DRK not having one, and the fact that GS itself does in fact have one, it's not completely unlikely.
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    Does anyone read Japanese?

    I wonder if the JP Dark Knight forums are an ocean of tears.
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    I wonder what the new scythe weapon will do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cljader1 View Post
    I wonder what the new scythe weapon will do
    Recovers MP apparently, doesn't even take it.


    What am I recovering MP for again? Oh right, Thunder III.

    Ohok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem@BG
    Alkimi posted this on our LS forums earlier when I asked him about it. Not concrete but gives a rough idea.

    Tried the Scythe one:

    DRK99/DNC49 using 133 dmg weapon.

    704 Attack, 93 STR, 102 INT, no buffs and naked besides scythe

    @100% TP did about 1.1k average
    @300% TP did around 2k

    Against mobs in Terrigan.
    Insurgency 2.0 with MP recovery. Guillo should do 1.8k to these same mobs.

    Why can't SE give scythe a lv99 WS that at least matches the level 60 WS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelia View Post
    Insurgency 2.0 with MP recovery. Guillo should do 1.8k to these same mobs.

    Why can't SE give scythe a lv99 WS that at least matches the level 60 WS?
    or fix the game they way they did for warrior back in 06. Make guillotine a crit based ws!
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