OK...its 2013. The last OEM spec PS2 dies. So what now? There are no more PS2s. They are all gone. Kaput. Can SE now start rolling out all the awesome things i have seen ppl ask for?
Originally Posted by Leonlionheart
Not without reworking the game and removing all the PS2 bits.
And again i ask, for this now 12 yr old game, you really think SE is going to retool FFXI?
Put group-think down for a second ppl and just think...
What's holding FFXI back? One thing, SE itself. SE is now, has in the past, and unless they wise up, will be in the future as well, the only thing holding back FFXI. I mean we saw a little taste of what FFXI could have been all along with Abyssea content, but 'Old SE' is coming back with a vengeance now(IE. Voidwatch, ridiculous reqs for minimal rewards, timesinks for the sake of having them, etc.)-and its bringing the pain.
They threw out "PS2 limitations" so many times over the years, no one thought to look any deeper. And if we had we'd have seen sooner that that infamous phrase really meant "We can make the changes that you are requesting, but because we don't feel like it and are already diverting large amounts of resources from FFXI to make another MMO(instead of properly setting this new project up on its own and putting serious thought into building new FFXI content), we won't."
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11-20-2011 02:43 PM #22I know all of you are really wishing this would happen but it won't Sony didn't revamp EQ after EQ was declining they just made a totally new EQ with some of the same stuff from the old one which is some what how 14 is to 11 and realistically you have a better chance at it raining 100 dollar bills all over the US then you do of SE dropping PS2 and doing a total remake.
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Yes and how well exactly did EQ2 do again? Originally Posted by Kaizersan
Do we see now why this "newer is better" logic is flawed in the MMO department? No? Okay. Why does WoW still have 11 million subscriptions? There has been a ton of new MMOs since it's release years ago. Do we see now why this "newer is better" logic is flawed in the MMO department? No? Okay. No winning this debate so I'm out. Got better things to do than debate flawed logic.(3)Last edited by Vold; 11-20-2011 at 02:55 PM.
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I never even said anything about asking for new awesome things.
Originally Posted by Spiritreaver
I agree completely, SE's attitude is the problem. If you read the second section, you'd have realized the tone was pretty much saying exactly what you said.
Still at some point PS2 has to go, once that crutch is gone they will have less and less of a public excuse to fail FFXI. Either way, no matter what the PS2 will either die, or FFXI will die.(1)Last edited by Leonlionheart; 11-20-2011 at 04:36 PM.
11-20-2011 04:40 PM #25It's an annual thing. First it was WoW, and then Guild Wars, and then Rift, and then Everquest II, and now Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Originally Posted by Elexia
Heck, Everquest is STILL going on, even after 12 years strong.(0)
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Actually they did, twice. There are been two client and graphics updates to EQ since EQ2 came out. Originally Posted by Kaizersan
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11-20-2011 07:47 PM #27Sorry but EQ2 didn't do so well not because it was newer it was because the game was a beast when it came to vid cards at the time not many people were willing to shell out the cash to play it and plus give it some time and there will be a new WoW it is just the way things go and it will do just as well as the old WoW.
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11-20-2011 07:48 PM #28I don't know it looks the same to me since all those years ago when I played it maybe a bit better but not as much as people are expecting them to do with FFXI.
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11-20-2011 07:51 PM #29Oh and Guild Wars 2 looks better and plays better and is going to be setup way better then Guild Wars so there is an example of newer is better.
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It isn't just FFXI that people keep saying is going to get killed, either. It happens to every MMO. Even WoW can't escape it. The mainstream media has attributed the term "WoW killer" to every MMO released since 2005. Seriously, anytime a fresh new MMO comes out, everyone says it's going to kill every other MMO on the market. Of course it never actually happens, but that doesn't stop people from saying it.
Originally Posted by Keyln
Occasionally an MMO will flop and get shutdown (Auto Assault is one example), but these are games that were failures right out of the starting gate, and never had a period of genuine profitability. MMOs that get shutdown usually kill themselves -- they don't get killed by other games.(1)Last edited by Rhianu; 11-20-2011 at 09:56 PM.
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