ps2 Server must die soo we can live

[Leonlionheart]

Everyone realizes that no matter what, PS2 space limitations will always remain right? So as we might be able to get a new zone right now, once the client reaches 10gb, it's done.

So, SE is saying to you "Hey look what we can do right now!" but they aren't telling you that adding this zone, or that graphic brings FFXI closer and closer to a standstill, and it's not too far off. At some point, either the PS2 has to go, or FFXI has to go.

[Spiritreaver]

Everyone realizes that no matter what, PS2 space limitations will always remain right? So as we might be able to get a new zone right now, once the client reaches 10gb, it's done.

So, SE is saying to you "Hey look what we can do right now!" but they aren't telling you that adding this zone, or that graphic brings FFXI closer and closer to a standstill, and it's not too far off. At some point, either the PS2 has to go, or FFXI has to go.

OK...its 2013. The last OEM spec PS2 dies. So what now? There are no more PS2s. They are all gone. Kaput. Can SE now start rolling out all the awesome things i have seen ppl ask for?

Not without reworking the game and removing all the PS2 bits.

And again i ask, for this now 12 yr old game, you really think SE is going to retool FFXI?

Put group-think down for a second ppl and just think...


What's holding FFXI back? One thing, SE itself. SE is now, has in the past, and unless they wise up, will be in the future as well, the only thing holding back FFXI. I mean we saw a little taste of what FFXI could have been all along with Abyssea content, but 'Old SE' is coming back with a vengeance now(IE. Voidwatch, ridiculous reqs for minimal rewards, timesinks for the sake of having them, etc.)-and its bringing the pain.

They threw out "PS2 limitations" so many times over the years, no one thought to look any deeper. And if we had we'd have seen sooner that that infamous phrase really meant "We can make the changes that you are requesting, but because we don't feel like it and are already diverting large amounts of resources from FFXI to make another MMO(instead of properly setting this new project up on its own and putting serious thought into building new FFXI content), we won't."

[Leonlionheart]

OK...its 2013. The last OEM spec PS2 dies. So what now? There are no more PS2s. They are all gone. Kaput. Can SE now start rolling out all the awesome things i have seen ppl ask for?

Not without reworking the game and removing all the PS2 bits.

And again i ask, for this now 12 yr old game, you really think SE is going to retool FFXI?

Put group-think down for a second ppl and just think...


What's holding FFXI back? One thing, SE itself. SE is now, has in the past, and unless they wise up, will be in the future as well, the only thing holding back FFXI. I mean we saw a little taste of what FFXI could have been all along with Abyssea content, but 'Old SE' is coming back with a vengeance now(IE. Voidwatch, ridiculous reqs for minimal rewards, timesinks for the sake of having them, etc.)-and its bringing the pain.

They threw out "PS2 limitations" so many times over the years, no one thought to look any deeper. And if we had we'd have seen sooner that that infamous phrase really meant "We can make the changes that you are requesting, but because we don't feel like it and are already diverting large amounts of resources from FFXI to make another MMO(instead of properly setting this new project up on its own and putting serious thought into building new FFXI content), we won't."

I never even said anything about asking for new awesome things.

I agree completely, SE's attitude is the problem. If you read the second section, you'd have realized the tone was pretty much saying exactly what you said.

Still at some point PS2 has to go, once that crutch is gone they will have less and less of a public excuse to fail FFXI. Either way, no matter what the PS2 will either die, or FFXI will die.