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  1. #111
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Their just hating. Lots of haters on here, been that way since 2004, gonna be that way till the game servers shutdown.

    Their the people who the moment they see a RDM with a sword they will freak out and go nuts. Their under the belief that RDM's have a hidden job trait that gives the monster +5 levels, 200 defense 1000 attack and 300tp/tick regain if we hit it. Any attempt to say otherwise has them frothing at the mouth and calling all sorts of insults. And what really gets under their skins isn't just a RDM daring to melee, but one who actually succeeds at a hybrid play style. They go crazy, spew insults and go into a state of mental shock and denial. I've learned over nearly 8 years to just tune them out and mute whenever possible.
    We have ourselves a winning post here.
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  2. #112
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    Everything else only makes it easier but leaders do not care how much stress / difficult the healer is under, they only want a win with the minimum required.
    Quite possibly the oddest thing you've mentioned considering the current loot system were more = more chances that people get something, if anything at all. Also, I would trust a whm to cure a "stressful situation" long before a rdm/sch with access to cure V. Better mp effeciency, less requirement to use JA if AOE heal is required, and not to mention the procs they have that a rdm doesn't. Sorry, new endgame doesn't cater to "least requirement to win" mentality anymore.

    Infact I'd invite and use a blm and whm any day over a rdm/sch just due to limited procs alone. One spell wouldn't change my mind one bit either. Oh, and this is coming from an LS lead perspective. Rdm doesn't even have half the spells both the jobs would bring to the table for procs, they also don't have many of the ws procs, no JA proc....not much of anything which makes it required or even half-way useful. The only way I'd have a rdm/sch for VWNM....is if that is the only job that member has to offer. That is how useless rdm is right now, one spell is not going to change this.
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  3. #113
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    rdm/sch and cure V ga....

    dont work with 4 why think work with V?
    only 2 charges and recast for 1 charge is 2 min.?

    i can cast 2 times, and then.....

    SE, 3 charges please
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    Last edited by Lilia; 11-07-2011 at 07:59 AM.

  4. #114
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    Meh it's the same thing as always, people on forums are only looking to get the last word in. I really only care that something is being done about curing in this game. It's a step forward. Talking about white gate or how the game used to be, unless you are going to talk about how you liked something about it, isn't constructive at this point.
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  5. #115
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilia View Post
    rdm/sch and cure V ga....

    dont work with 4 why think work with V?
    only 2 charges and recast for 1 charge is 2 min.?

    i can cast 2 times, and then.....
    Accession does work with Cure IV, also I assume they mean if SCH got it too, then it would work with Accession. Just like Regen IV didn't work when only WHM got it, now SCH gets it on the test server it works.
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  6. #116
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    ... i know cure 4 work with accession....

    but you can 2 ga and then must wait 2 min. when you cast ssga you have only 1 for curaga
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  7. #117
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilia View Post
    ... i know cure 4 work with accession....

    but you can 2 ga and then must wait 2 min. when you cast ssga you have only 1 for curaga
    Yes? what's your point, I'm confused. It's rare you need Ga's even on WHM.
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  8. #118
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    Was browsing around and saw the following interesting post. The bolded bit is literally what i hear ingame from ppl all the time(since Abyssea was added almost) and i think SE has it in their collective head that this would be what happens if RDM and SCH got Cure V. I've read expressed opinions to the contrary here, but i think that this is is a view that is held by way more ppl than some of you guys want to admit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    You said it best Malamasa, the developers at SE for FFXI are one of the MOST clueless group that ever existed. They must have utter massive hate on ALL pet based jobs when it takes them years to fix the problems. I am glad the finally decided to do something for Pup after 5 YEARS!!! Beastmaster is finally good and competent now. But SMN and DRG still gets no love whatsoever, even if the updates should be VERY minor and it won't really break the game.

    Please stop adjusting WHM... or giving that particular job more spells from other jobs... I long for the day when WHM is dead weight and not needed and when you can invite other jobs in their place like SCH and RDM.

    RDM, SCH, DRK, RNG, COR and PLD should be their TOP priorities now along with SMN and DRG. At least they are working on SCH. Give Rdm and Sch their Cure V and call it a day please. The rest of Aby Elite jobs should be left untouched for awhile... I feel like they have very little clue on how to do job balancing on certain jobs but greatly favor certain jobs (yes thank you, WAR, MNK and NIN is awesome already - leave these jobs alone).
    Was from this thread.

    Personally i don't care one way or the other; but i just got to thinking if sentiments like this have made their way to SE and influenced their thinking on this issue. Or if they possibly came to a similar conclusion all on their own.

    Also what struck me was how the bolded bit just kinda jumped out of nowhere. That thread was about a totally different issue, then BLAM->"WHM can suck it!!!!11111" Like i said, interetesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Yes? what's your point, I'm confused. It's rare you need Ga's even on WHM.
    You must not do Voidwatch much.
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  10. #120
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritreaver View Post
    Was browsing around and saw the following interesting post. The bolded bit is literally what i hear ingame from ppl all the time(since Abyssea was added almost) and i think SE has it in their collective head that this would be what happens if RDM and SCH got Cure V. I've read expressed opinions to the contrary here, but i think that this is is a view that is held by way more ppl than some of you guys want to admit.



    Was from this thread.

    Personally i don't care one way or the other; but i just got to thinking if sentiments like this have made their way to SE and influenced their thinking on this issue. Or if they possibly came to a similar conclusion all on their own.

    Also what struck me was how the bolded bit just kinda jumped out of nowhere. That thread was about a totally different issue, then BLAM->"WHM can suck it!!!!11111" Like i said, interetesting.
    The only place RDM or SCH would get into with Cure V is Abyssea, and that's fast becoming old news.... Turning into nothing more than an EXP zone.
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