Why Cant Final fantasy 11 get the same treatment?

[saevel]

I understand your feelings about the differences between FINAL FANTASY XI and FINAL FANTASY XIV. Please understand that these games are very different entities and just as it was stated before, the operational policies as well as the size of the development team are very different as well.

Just to clarify one misconception I have been noticing for a while now...

"PS2 limitations" is not a factor for adding new areas to the game and we will in fact be adding new areas in the future, so please do not worry about this.

Camate are their any plans, even long term ones, about redoing the graphics engine for PC clients? As it stands it's currently using DirectX 8.1 and rendering to a single flat surface, this creates graphics issues on any PC made in the past three to four years. Doesn't even need to be something like DX10/11, a simple DX9 remake would suffice.

[Dreamin]

New areas = more levels in Nyzul Isle Investigation. They going to just add more levels and throw in some currency in there and called that content.

With the crap drop rate of anything but logs/ores, most people that I know are already tired of VW's and WoE's. This ain't 2005 anymore, SE, people no longer wish to go back to the old ground kings/sky/sea day of slaving away weeks/months on end for that extreme low drop rate of decent armors. (I know people who are well over 0/30+ on Celaeno with full lights on everyrun).

[Lojinxx]

Lazyness/Cheapness/Corner-Cutting seem to be the issue here if it isnt PS2 limitations. There is No reason that FF11 should get neglected the way it is and FF14 pretty much gets told "do what you have to, to make this game work".

Yes there is and I wouldn't call it neglect.

Most of you are either crazy or just have such a boring work day that you resort to unnecessary forum drama. An open discussion about revamps to the game is understandable. I'd love to see updated graphics or even just HD texture packs or whatever, but for people to come on here and put down SE saying the game is dying and that it needs to be torn apart and rebuilt is just nonsense. It's laughable. Most of you talk as though you work at the company saying "SE thinks this" or "SE knows that" . It's almost as if some of you think you actually have a slight idea as to how they'll approach things or what their ideas for the future are, but I'm sure you don't know any more than what we all know through announcements. All I've really ever heard in the form of official announcements is them thanking us for being with them so long and that they hope to support the game for years to come lol.

I think the big point that both sides of the argument in this thread are missing is that you're all the minority! There's only a handful of you on this forum bitching and moaning about a "dead game" while hundreds of thousands(I don't even know the number I just know it's way more than you guys lol) of people are playing the game and loving it. Sometimes things get monotonous, but they always implement something new. And if it takes them a little longer than we hope to implement, take a freaking break from the game and live a little, or better yet, help your friends or other people who weren't as fortunate as you to achieve their goals in-game while yours are all attained. So please, quit your whining people or stop playing the game. But you won't stop playing becuase you enjoy the game, you just enjoy complaining a little bit more. I only saw this thread through Guildwork because of the developer saying they'll be releasing new areas or whatever, otherwise I don't associate with whine asses, but I thought I'd stop over and put you all in your place real quick.

Dear SE,

Don't mind these people. They don't have anything better to do than belittle anything that doesn't go their way. Although I'd love to see some graphics upgrades, I'm really not fond of jumping around or swimming. I don't want new formulas and game mechanics; the ones we have now are pretty kickass.(note I said pretty and not absolutely) Nobody is perfect, but SE comes pretty damn close with FFXI imo.

Thanks SE for all the good times you've provided and will continue to provide.

You(and let me make it clear that when i say "you" i mean all the people with no appreciation whatsoever for the game this company has provided) can all feel dumb now. kthxbye

[cidbahamut]

The moment the playerbase becomes complacent is the moment the game dies.

[JovialRat]

Just to clarify one misconception I have been noticing for a while now...

"PS2 limitations" is not a factor for adding new areas to the game and we will in fact be adding new areas in the future, so please do not worry about this.

Would it be possible to give us a list of what the PS2 is limiting what Vana diel can be?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I would wager the license they have with Sony to publish the game for the PS2 doesn't allow them to talk about what the limitations are, either to enforce non-competitiveness or to hinder reverse-engineering.

[Elexia]

Then please answer this: If it's "not a factor", then why did they place all the new high level normal monsters in existing areas, instead of adding new areas to fill with them?

Please answer this:

Why would we need new areas, with absolutely no story relation nor logical reason to exist for the sole purpose of new monsters to grind on?

It can't be said "well they can add content to it in the future!" Since that's the purpose of making new areas in the first place, for said content lol. Think of it like this: We have Vanilla and Zilart zones, they raised the cap to 75, then they introduced the CoP areas for the sole purpose of Grinding XP then 7 months later, we get the first CoP story arc attached to the new zones.

Not as good of an addition then, huh?

So FFXI is getting neglected compared to its younger FFXIV brother because???

Common sense?

One requires development on even an engine level.

One requires just content addition.

Which requires, or needs, the bigger development team?

Unless of course your post was sarcastic.

[Luso]

I think the big point that both sides of the argument in this thread are missing is that you're all the minority! There's only a handful of you on this forum bitching and moaning about a "dead game" while hundreds of thousands(I don't even know the number I just know it's way more than you guys lol) of people are playing the game and loving it. Sometimes things get monotonous, but they always implement something new. And if it takes them a little longer than we hope to implement, take a freaking break from the game and live a little, or better yet, help your friends or other people who weren't as fortunate as you to achieve their goals in-game while yours are all attained. So please, quit your whining people or stop playing the game. But you won't stop playing becuase you enjoy the game, you just enjoy complaining a little bit more. I only saw this thread through Guildwork because of the developer saying they'll be releasing new areas or whatever, otherwise I don't associate with whine asses, but I thought I'd stop over and put you all in your place real quick.

Just because not many people post on here regarding the current discussions regarding a game overhaul/graphics does not mean that the ones currently posting are the only ones supporting it. They're just the ones that actually have the mindset to talk about instead of waiting around for someone else to do the talking for them. Now and again that person will draw some criticism from people but any amount is fine because they wouldn't have even known if people weren't for such an upgrade if they had stayed silent. And who knows? Maybe the interest and discussions involving this subject will spark something in SE's plan for XI. Maybe it won't; the point is, SE cannot read our minds; we have to be vocal in what we want or hope for. I'm not on the side of those who think that they know how SE's business works, but I am on the side that wants something done (this includes a message from SE regarding any future upgrades, if even at all).

Dear SE,

Don't mind these people. They don't have anything better to do than belittle anything that doesn't go their way. Although I'd love to see some graphics upgrades, I'm really not fond of jumping around or swimming. I don't want new formulas and game mechanics; the ones we have now are pretty kickass.

I don't think THAT many people are actually very serious about wanting flying mounts or jumping around, despite a recent thread stating an interest in the former. Also, the fact that you're saying you don't want new formulas or game mechanics means you aren't interested in whatever the new dungeon crawling and "The Last Stand" have to offer, at least, that's what I'm drawing from this. You don't know if they'll change anything regarding game mechanics, so don't assume things just yet.

[cidbahamut]

Common sense?

One requires development on even an engine level.

Yes, FFXI's DirectX wrapper is quickly approaching obsolescence as the version of DirectX it currently uses is slated to be dropped from the backwards compatibility features in future operating systems.

One requires just content addition.

Ineed, FFXIV could use a hearty helping of additional content.

Which requires, or needs, the bigger development team?

FFXI clearly.

Oh wait, that's not at all the conclusion you intended people to draw is it?

[FrankReynolds]

Yes there is and I wouldn't call it neglect.

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You(and let me make it clear that when i say "you" i mean all the people with no appreciation whatsoever for the game this company has provided) can all feel dumb now. kthxbye

You should post this over in the FFXIV forums. The people posting here pay for this game, and obviously care about and appreciate the game. That is why we are debating it's future. FFXI is not free. We have a right to ask for our paid service to be kept fresh and modern.