Hvergelmir WTF SE

[Dallas]

Kegsay's work was far from complete, and my data put a hole in it. Avatars appear to have a damage bonus that extends to weaker mobs as well as stronger ones.

[Byrth]

A few weeks ago I reviewed the past 2 years of Alla SMN forum research-posts and found nothing inconsistent with Kegsay's posts on Avatar pDIF. When I went to test it myself, all that I found is that Avatars get crit attack bonus and BPs don't follow the same pDIF as melee.

[Dallas]

My work was on Wiki, I specifically tested on EP - DC mobs to eliminate level correction. It is far more likely that avatars have low attack plus 50% damage bonus than it is that avatars have naturally high attack. The "level" slope is too steep.

[Alerith]

Shikikoyo.

I always thought this ability didn't really get the respect it deserves, considering it's applications.

If MP becomes a problem, a SAM can use this underrated ability to give any mage the necessary TP to recover a respectable amount with Myrkr and to remove some no good status effects. And it doesn't use an item or require you to change your Atmas for melee/accuracy. Just a willing SAM with 200%-300% TP.

Strategy and team work. Problem solved.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Sam has better things to do than give tp to a Smn, mainly keep weaponskilling (in Fudo's case, more damage/ODD if MAsamune). If they aren't weaponskilling, someone is probably on the wrong job.

[Dallas]

Yes, samurai have better things to do, like beg for a party slot. Haven't seen a SAM in ages...

[Economizer]

Sam has better things to do than give tp to a Smn

But it isn't for TP, it is for the MP. A Summoner having 800-1000 MP is generally better then a Samurai having 100-200 TP, unless your goal is to lots of damage RIGHT NOW.

Same for a Black Mage or Scholar. Shoot, with a Scholar you can now return the TP using Embrava, so even in a zerg it could be a good idea.

Creative problem solving can make for good gameplay.

[Raksha]

My work was on Wiki, I specifically tested on EP - DC mobs to eliminate level correction. It is far more likely that avatars have low attack plus 50% damage bonus than it is that avatars have naturally high attack. The "level" slope is too steep.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...=1#post4792772

The 2 links in that post point to testing.

[Soranika]

I have a friend who played on SAM when we went to go do WoE. Better believe giving me TP when he could aided him in ability to survive. Just saying.

[Razushu]

Yes, samurai have better things to do, like beg for a party slot. Haven't seen a SAM in ages...

tend to see them alot more than melee SMNs......