Walk of the no Coin drops??? formerly Walk of echoes

[Siviard]

Ok, those of you saying you want some sort of a lot system......just.....NO

You're just inviting douchebags to lot on stuff they don't really need for a quick profit.

The absolute best solution for the coin problem is to introduce a new NPC (I liked the Shami [S] idea) who you can trade unwanted coins you obtain from Walk of Echoes in exchange for coins you need at a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio.

I also liked the idea someone mentioned earlier, mentioning at least 1 item in the loot pool should be a coin 100% of the time. If it turns out to be a coin you need, GREAT! Lucky you! But if you get coins you don't need 3 times in a row, then you can simply trade those in for 1 you need. That way, it takes you 3 runs at most to obtain 1 coin you need. Assuming you keep doing WoE continuously and never get a coin you need, it would take 90 Walk of Echoes runs to complete a WoE weapon trial.

[Chilzen]

If the dev team would consider it, would it be reasonable for them to remove the horrible items such as silver ore and whatnot that people usually just leave in the chest, and instead change them into Devious Die?

I made 5 WoE weapons before this update, and after doing runs religiously in my downtime, I've managed to walk away with only 5/500 Die I'd need if I wanted to upgrade them all, let alone come close to upgrading a single one at this rate. I'm not sure exactly what the devs were thinking with the 100 Die requirement as far as balance goes, but with such low drop rates overall, coupled with the fact that on my server the WoE craze has already died down from 100+ people to barely 15 in Flux 9 during US Prime, I'm not really certain how they expect me or other players to reasonably upgrade our weapons any higher. I also do not wish to pay 50k-100k per Die, since that'll basically be 5M-10M at the rate the players are bazaaring them on my server, and most mercenary shells will sell you an entire stage of an Emp Weapon for that much money...

[Zaknafein]

just want to point out that all these little items that you guys don't want help the economy, these little items provide ways for people starting out in new crafts where as before the materials just were not there.
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I think the majority are fine with helping out crafter's. I craft myself, and while none of the WoE drops pertain two my leveled crafts I have happily put the stuff I received on the AH, and made a bit of cash. What people don't want are things like bone chips, and revival roots.

In regards to people asking for coins to be bazaarable I'm not a fan of that. 3:1 ratio will keep people coming to the event. If coins are sold through bazaar's as well as dice the event will fade to low attendance a lot faster imo.

[Alhanelem]

Alrighty everyone, as I mentioned earlier I submitted your feedback to the development team and got a response from them.

Their idea and the current specifications are set so that you are guaranteed a reward by receiving a personal treasure chest, but getting exactly what you want each time is a difficult request.

They also commented that changing this to a lotting system is fine; however, since Walk of Echoes is a non-reserve system, you are playing with a maximum of 36 characters at the same time and if everyone single person says they want a specific item, you might not receive a reward at all. The development team wants to make sure you are okay with that.

The current system is fine, it's just that it currently seems slower to obtain trial items than it was before. Remember that before, only small groups did Walk of Echoes, thus your odds of getting the coins you wanted were actually the same if not better.

[Alhanelem]

"Damn, that run was tough. All of those NQ and HQ Skeleton Samurai's ending with Ganesha himself whom call any undefeated minions to his side to rape the unprepared..it was tough."

WoE Chest: "Rest easy, Heroes! I have your Gold Ore, Oak Log and Rainbow Cloth here!"

"...."

I think this sums everything up, really. (Sorry for doublepost!)

Really, in the current state of things, Walk of Echoes weapons are slower to aquire than Empyreans. And this really shouldn't be the case.

[Vitus]

Again, if you want coins, try to spam #7 it will help. #8-11 are mostly for a small chance on big money items/scrolls. A fiend and I spam mostly 6 & 7, we don't have very similar results but close enough. Here are the numbers after ~80 runs

Mine:
Birth: 44
Adv. : 36
Glory: 60
Decay: 60
Ruin : 36

Friend:
'' 46
'' 33
'' 36
'' 32
'' 23

Imo the drop rate is steady enough that you will get whatever you want eventually, although not instantly. Don't go back to the old system, it won't work with 36ppl per run.

The friend misses a few runs, that's why she has smaller numbers overall.

[Washburn]

Maybe make a Walk of Echoe's only currency system similar to Dominion Ops, or Grounds of Valor tabs, where you always get an amount of that currency then spend it on the coin you need. It would still keep the challenge of obtaining them, without making the whole server compete with one another.

[Alkimi]

You could just adjust the magian trials themselves so that 30 of any coin can upgrade any weapon. Either that or just get rid of the different types and replace them with a generic one. As a counter to this to stop very quick completion remove the coin pouches entirely.

You're still looking at a good 60 clears on average of the upper tiers to get 30 total coins of differing types, I would say that's fairly reasonable.

[Insaniac]

Always remember that SE is the Wishmaster. Ask to not have to complete with leeches in WoE and they turn us all into leeches. Complain that Relics aren't powerful enough compared to Emps that are easier to get and they make 95 Emps nearly impossible to finish. Tell them you want force pop kings so you don't have to pay HNM shells millions of gil for BB items and gear and you get 5-10mil hq king pops.

[Gokku]

i vote bloodsucker's be added to ffxi so i can have S.T.A.L.K.E.R flashbacks in game.... when is the 4th game comming?!