Current Empy 95 Price

[Mahoro]

And your philosophy is to use the the current jobs that don't suck (WHM) to farm gears to those that suck (SCH,RDM). In the end of the day, with better gear, sch is vastly inferior to WHM, period.

Ah, so I see where your twisted logic is going. You essentially want SE to delete the SCH and RDM jobs, because no other job should help them get gear.

Which other jobs do you want SE to delete? Do you want everyone in the game to be WAR, BLM, and WHM? Which jobs escape uscathed in your eyes Pchan?

[Neisan_Quetz]

I hate to agree with Pchan but as it stands outside of Sch's 2hour there's little reason to bring Sch or Rdm to party events other than VW procs. And you can cast Embrava outside of party iirc, so you don't even need Sch in the party to benefit from Embrava.

[Elexia]

I hate to agree with Pchan but as it stands outside of Sch's 2hour there's little reason to bring Sch or Rdm to party events other than VW procs. And you can cast Embrava outside of party iirc, so you don't even need Sch in the party to benefit from Embrava.

Can bring one if you want.

[Neisan_Quetz]

'For the hell of it' doesn't make either useful; I could bring PUP for the hell of it if I want but it's still not going to be a useful job.

[Arcon]

If it's required I'll be SMN. But it's not the job I like to play the most, that's still PLD solo. And I want gear for it, no matter how useless it is to everyone else on the game.

A job being more or less useful has nothing at all to do with what you wanna gear or play. Why would you wanna gear WHM? Light Staff and Noble's and you're fine for 98% of the content.

It's not about the "smartest choice". People can be very well aware of the smartest choice, but that's not what a game is about. A game is about playing, about doing what's fun. If it's fun to build an elemental nuking set for PLD/SCH to you, then go ahead with it and invest as much as you want in it. Be WAR or THF or WHM only to events, it doesn't matter and has nothing to do with what you go to these events for.

Saying it's pointless to gear SCH is like saying it's pointless to play FFXI. You'd be right on both counts, but it doesn't make it any more relevant. Playing games isn't about having a point, it's about what's fun. I hate saying it, because it's usually only used by idiots trying to justify their no-haste setup, but then again, I am arguing with Pimpchan..

[Malamasala]

'For the hell of it' doesn't make either useful; I could bring PUP for the hell of it if I want but it's still not going to be a useful job.

I think the definition of "useful" is that it improves the party to invite one rather than leave the spot empty. The opposite is useless, and means that even if you invited the job, the party wouldn't do better.

Usually when people say "useful" they mean "ultimate" or "the best" or "overpowered". That is why so few jobs are "useful".

[Zumi]

I think a lot of the disappointment comes from all the people who dual boxed a bunch of empyreans. Which was actually good for SE because I knew several people who paid for 2 accounts monthly just so they could get a bunch of easy af3 and empyreans from abyssea. Now SE is going back to the alliance style of events with voidwatch. When it seems a majority of people were able to dual box a level 90 empyrean and now they can't continue. Can't tell me all you dual boxers wouldn't be getting plates from VW could be dual boxed even if it was 1500 drops.

Most people now have really small linkshells don't have anywhere near 18 people because abyssea made it so you dual boxed or did stuff with like 3-6 people on average. Lots of people have quit FFXI, so yea its pretty hard to organize any large scale event. For the casual player which abyssea catered to void watch is just way to annoying to get 18 people together to do it.

[Monchat]

Ah, so I see where your twisted logic is going. You essentially want SE to delete the SCH and RDM jobs, because no other job should help them get gear.

They already deleted RDM from the game, a long time ago, idk about sch but people say its as useless as rdm. Idk, people dont use rdm since the level cap increases 80+. Because they made WHM such a godly healer, and not only inside abyssea, because WHM also has access to so many auto refresh gear now, and convert.

They said they won't give rdm cure V and give ways to cure through regening or something. Did you see anything that improve SCH and RDM cures from 90-95? no, they gave rdm a double attack spell only available for self-target. This is pretty much, for any RDM fan out there, a clear statement they do not care about the job. They dont care. The only thing really useful about RDM is refreshII, maybe dia3. but diaII si accessible to any mage subbing rdm or whm, and dia2>dia3 is an improvement but nothing spectacular (10% def reduction versus 15%), and every mage can have refresh1 with /rdm.

This is not just about rdm anyway, its the same for many many jobs. You keep seeing threads on these forums. THF that cry out that nobody cares about enimity control and steal abilities, the only reason one wants a THF is Treasure Hunter. They give you bully, an ability only usefull if you tank (= you're the only DD, or your only DDs are THFs I guess), when people expect them to make TH3+ something noticable on drop rates from NMs. They should never have made TH2 available from SJ in the first place, nor give TH abi to other jobs. They clearly do not care about THF. The list goes on.

They just chose the easy path to what they think will fix the job balance: VW proc system: your job is still useless, but we need you (for procs)! yeah!

[MarkovChain]

level 95 WHM is like an upgraded level 75 RDM with cure V-VI and 11 tick auto refresh instead of 3.

[Gotterdammerung]

'For the hell of it' doesn't make either useful; I could bring PUP for the hell of it if I want but it's still not going to be a useful job.

Just because you suck at a job, doesn't mean the job sucks. You might come pup and be useless. But that doesn't mean PUP is useless. It just means YOU are useless on pup.