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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Melee and Mage improvements, as a Hybrid no one specific area should be the sole area to improve.
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    In protest against further melee improvements, I want mage updates.
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    a lot of you guys are missing the key point here. in his hypothetical he's saying whatever mage update would happen, happens no matter what. so you can't vote "for' mage side. since that happens no matter what anyone says. so in the world of sunshine and fairies where rdm mage is gonna be totally fine no matter what, would you also like melee with that? i know i would.

    but i also agree with the general sentiment that this thread is gonna be flamebait.. i'm amazed it isn't already.
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    After the last VU where the only thing they managed to implement in time was Temper, I have a vote of no confidence in that anymore.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    After the last VU where the only thing they managed to implement in time was Temper, I have a vote of no confidence in that anymore.

    Which they already said they planned on releasing the remaining spells for RDM after the major update with the Enfeebling fix. Temper and Boost-STR was just so they had something to come with the update along with giving them Raise II.
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    Seeing as doombringer was the only one to see it so far, im going to enlarge the font for the important lines.
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    Well in My Opinion I believe that Red Mage should follow the original Concept of a Magic Fencer that has Mid Level White and Black Magic, but I also believe it needs adjustments in the Magic Fencer Ascept so I support Melee Adjustments.
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  8. #18
    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    I do not want any dev time wasted on improving RDM's meleeing abilities. An alliance/party leader will never want a RDM to melee, ever, it serves no point. It is a soloists hobby, and many other jobs can solo/melee much better. This is not 2003 anymore, this is now 2011 and everyone has multiple level 95 jobs plus it's so easy/fast to level, if you really want to melee then level up one of the other numerous other melee DD jobs that do it much better. Ninja, blu, and dnc are all pretty similiar to melee RDM but actually do it correctly.

    Even if it didn't waste dev time somehow, it'd still be a huge waste of time and pointless. It would be like buffing PLD nuking abilities, or WHM melee abilities.
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  9. #19
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    Didn't say I was against it, figured having better gear options would be a more applicable step towards the melee aspect than anything. You know, better WS body, TP body, Weapons like ye olde Enhancing sword that gives us better Melee support when enspell or similar Rdm only spell is active.

    Figured if anything my name would end up under "any improvement" not under "against" >.> oh well.
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    Last edited by Kitkat; 09-25-2011 at 08:21 AM.

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    No melee buffs for RDM, thats not what the job is for.
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