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  1. #71
    Player noodles355's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feliciaa View Post
    If your pulling hate just from a single double shot every pull
    They're gimp
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    It's also a great sub if you are in a zone with lots if sneak + invisible mobs and you just want to be lazy.
    You're being gimp!

    Trolling aside. People need to stop neglecting /Drg as a sub.
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    Translation: Good if I'm being gimp or if the other party members are being gimp?
    Exactly. Sometimes other party members are not that great and it becomes a detriment to be so outdamaging that you are constantly pulling hate. If you are constantly holding back /SAM, you've lost every bit of the advantage it gives you.

    And sometimes it is OK to be lazy. If what you are doing isn't terribly difficult and biggest challenge is getting around sight and sound aggro, then utsusemi, tonko and monomi are perfectly good reasons to go around /NIN.

    Do a Sea all RNG sometime. It might surprise you. (i.e. on Odin the most common sub is neither NIN, SAM or WAR). Everything has its uses and I don't think there is any argument that for damage /WAR, /SAM are king. But that doesn't make all subs useless given every activity in this game is no longer a zerg.
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    Yo Ho Yo Ho, a pirate's life for me!

  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    They're gimp
    You're being gimp!

    Trolling aside. People need to stop neglecting /Drg as a sub.
    With things shifting from abyssea to much harder content like void I can see /DRG being the best sj. Especially when you combine it with decoy shot.
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    With things shifting from abyssea to much harder content like void I can see /DRG being the best sj. Especially when you combine it with decoy shot.
    Well if they moved Super Jump to level 49 from 50, I could see that. As it is Attack Bonus I and High Jump (which has a range restriction of 10' and only sheds 30% enmity as a subjob) isn't enough yet to make me jump on the /DRG bandwagon yet (pardon the pun).
    But its a viable subjob if all you are concerned about is enmity shedding. Admittedly its a bit like /NIN in that it offers minimal offensive advantages making it less likely you'll take hate meaning its less likely you'll need the High Jump effect.
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    Yo Ho Yo Ho, a pirate's life for me!

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirabelle View Post
    Admittedly its a bit like /NIN in that it offers minimal offensive advantages making it less likely you'll take hate meaning its less likely you'll need the High Jump effect.
    You should still eventually be coming close to CE cap on tough fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feliciaa View Post
    However, it will lose to relic gun and bow in overall dmg on harder mobs because relics won't have to hold back like the emp rng would.
    Real rangers get a Yoich and Gandiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    Real rangers get a Yoich and Gandiva
    Man if you could fund me a yoich i would get it just for the very few fights i would have to hate control, but i actually do think wildfire took its place for the time being, as i would use empy gun instead if hate is an issue, because it is almost impossible not to grab hate after a jishnu's on...anything. unless it's a war tank, then i would need 2-3 more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

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    Is Wildfire even that good outside of abyssea on rng?
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    should be better than slugshot.
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    Slugshot is crap ._.
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