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  1. #61
    Player Feliciaa's Avatar
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    Feliciaa
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    RNG Lv 90
    The Relic bow/gun WS is just about the same damage as sidewinder once you get the 90 version. That's why, it won't put up the crazy numbers Jishnu does but it will easily beat it on anything Jishnu can't 1 shot.
    With Stout Arm, VV, Sea Doughter and /sam the amount of TP gained and normal shot damage is very good.
    But that's just IMO and I still find Gandiva to be a crazy good weapon for anyone who can't spend the time/gil on relic bow/gun since the quest for them sucks vs. Gandiva's quest path.
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    Last edited by Feliciaa; 09-13-2011 at 11:47 AM.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feliciaa View Post
    It's just about the same damage as sidewinder once you get the 90 version. That's why, it won't put up the crazy numbers Jishnu does but it will easily beat it on anything Jishnu can't 1 shot.
    With Stout Arm, VV, Sea Doughter and /sam the amount of TP gained and normal shot damage is very good.
    But that's just IMO and I still find Gandiva to be a crazy good weapon for anyone who can't spend the time/gil on relic bow/gun since the quest for them sucks vs. Gandiva's quest path.
    Bhukis is a mood killer for bow, is a horrible trial NM and the only reason i put off getting the bow long ago, while fistule was a joke, since his wings actually gave you the WS, i dreaded it, but thanks to my shell they helped me with over half of the wings and i got it done, namas arrow is great for hate free damage but sadly i do not have the paitence to bother with it, especialy with having gandiva. but i do love gandiva because things die very quickly with jishnu's and i love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Bhukis is a mood killer for bow, is a horrible trial NM and the only reason i put off getting the bow long ago...
    I burnt out finishing bow and stopped playing for like 2 months. I'm not sure how I'm going to get those 75 fangs...
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  4. #64
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    Alfard isn't very hard at all. Shouldn't have any issues with a NIN + WHM at the bare minimum. My shell merced quite a bit of widowmakers so I ended up getting most of the ones from them. I'm currently sitting at around 50/75 and I plan to build up some crour and openly ask people to bring pop sets to brew them, just for the sake of getting it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    wasn't hear when that was added. but still I think gear swaping is stupid. That is my opinion, anfd I have the right to say it. If you care to insult me over my opinion then you just prove how childish you are
    Translation: I'm rubber and you're glue, everything bounces off of me and sticks to you, you noob brat gear swapping elitist soloists.

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    What's everyones opinion on Griffon Claw? I've been curious about using that Atma with a Mekki Shakki.
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  6. #66
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    Good question. It would provid a good chunk of damage to your WS, but offer nothing to TP. Maybe with Stout Arm and Sea Daughter it would be good if you got a solid 4 hit build going. It wont beat out RR/SS/GH for Jishnu's, but could be worthwhile for gun.

    Although, concidering the huge boost that dead aim gives, it could be worth trying to boost your normal per hit damage with crit based atmas like RR and SS and/or GH and just accepting that most of your damage will come from the TP phase and you will have mediocre WSs.
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    Kitori
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    NIN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Feliciaa View Post
    /nin or /sam are the best SJs for rng. Both have their ups and downs. It really depends on what you are doing and what other jobs your teamed up with.
    What reason should you ever sub NIN besides skilling up axe? /nin serves no point.
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  8. #68
    Player Feliciaa's Avatar
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    It really depends on the skill level of the other players. Ie. If your pulling hate just from a single double shot every pull and you are low on healing/support the shadows are nice. It's also a great sub if you are in a zone with lots if sneak + invisible mobs and you just want to be lazy.
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  9. #69
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    Translation: Good if I'm being gimp or if the other party members are being gimp?
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  10. #70
    Player Feliciaa's Avatar
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    That depends on how good the RNG is with shadows. With shadows you can often tank long enough to not die after pulling hate. But with /Sam you are relying on third eye to last long enough and you also lose the ability to take any single Target magic spells.
    At that point /nin will win since the /Sam is dead. However, overall yes. /Sam is much better then anything else RNG can sub but I would not call /nin useless.
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