The last, great hope..

[Tsuneo]

You act like you actually understand your job which it is apparent that you do not. People weren't trying to derail your thread, but rather tell you the truth. The truth is you can add as much to PLD as you want, but if it's got no reason to be in the battlefield then it's going to stay in the Mog House. You try to insult people by saying that they can't think, but you're the one who really isn't looking at the whole picture.

[Airget]

With the advent of more VoidWatch, we see more content that embraces Paladin tanking. That said, I for one believe that the job needs more attention than it receives.

Two weeks ago, 3 different PLD threads were at the top of the English charts the entire week, the following Monday SCH and THF posts were addressed which had either been completely absent or were floating at the bottom.

Can we please get some feedback on the many valuable ideas that were created by the people that love and make this game great? Who here in 2004 would have gotten much from sky if it hadn't been for this job? I digress....

Let's not recreate a dependence on PLD but let's honestly improve it to make it the best it can be:

If a stat like Defense isn't effective in reducing damage, then let's make a job trait for that

If every job gets a new spell then by God then let's have everybody get one

If we need a job ability with a low recast timer based on enmity generation then let's make one!

If you support PLD and want to see this job receive the attention it deserves then LIKE this post. Help us help everyone have a fun and safe endgame experience!

Love,

Your Gallant Defenders

The thing is with different dynamics different party setups work. When it comes to abyssea because of atmas jobs with DD potential will outshine PLD because they have the HP to stay alive and mages have the MP to keep the DD alive. Outside of abyssea which is where the game is heading back to PLD's are showing that they are indeed balanced for the game. In abyssea their defensive capabilities can be used against foes and take reduced damage but since everyone can have high HP the DD that take heavy hits aren't as big of a burden as they are outside.

I tried voidwatch for the first time today did it with 7 and with the somewhat lack of info on the web about the event it is pretty hard to setup the proper dynamic to tackle it. For that event I do wish there was a PLD around to help out but they are MIA atm, it's almost getting toa point where I'm kinda tempted to lv PLD cause I know how useful they'd be in voidwatch. A NIN can only go so far in that event it's easy to tell that there are a lot of shadow wiping moves as well as go through shadow moves to worry about it does make it hard for NIN to hold their own in certain dynamics. Even with acc gear and food when attempting the puk it was a whiff fest the fight reminded me of the ZNM against the puk for the garuda gear.

Just reading up on voidwatch the first tier of monsters is just like abyssea without the atmas lol. like honestly if you try abyssea without any atmas against those same mob types you would prolly see PLD holding their own better since they naturally have better defensive capabilities then all other jobs.

If a true adjustment had to take place it would be a true balanced concept behind the defense modifier on dmg taken for all jobs.Sure for some jobs it doesn't look like they are getting much this update and yes it is kinda odd being that's it's near the final cap. You would think every job would see some sort of update even if it is a WS at 95 which would be nice.

Overall though each job does have their purpose based on each situation you can't expect to be good at every single mob otherwise that would just be imbalanced. In a sense PLD is good against every single mob it's just that when it comes down to abyssea their defensive capabilities are to high and unnecessary for the task at hand which is purely to kill the mob as fast as possible once you get the proc. For the most part PLD can't really do that. But with everything PLD has to offer they are good as they are and ye know at least PLD is getting a JA this update XD WAR/MNK are getting jack meanwhile even SAM is getting an update even after the one they just got in the mini-update lol.

Though let's not forget the new dynamic of VU. It's not just this main update we're getting but their's also the mini-update to look forward to so while jobs might not be getting the updates they may desire, they may get ability/trait or even magic adjustments within the month of october lol.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...Version-Update

Look how much was added then, <_< SAM even got another JA lol. Man SAM has been getting a lot of buffs lately not to go off tangent XD th0ough I guess I am a tad bitter that WAR isn't getting anything new to play with. Sure they may have good offensive abilities but still that's 5 levels with the only change being combat skill least PLD has that shield JA which could find itself handy in certain situations lol.

But ya there's always the next update and if that update showed anything it's that they will make a wide range of job adjustments to help balance out all the jobs and give every job something to play with lol.

[Vicious]

If anything, this shit is counterproductive to your cause, as anyone with any sense whatsoever is fully aware that the problem facing PLD today is how little it is needed outside of Voidwatch; if you get enough support for this nonsense that the devs actually get distracted from fixing the real problem, you are only doing PLD a disservice.

But hey, the kids down the street got shiny new toys, so I guess you're going to whine until you get some too, eh?

[Insaniac]

I did not post an opinion, I posted a request for support from fellow adventurers about a specific job that I feel strongly about and I believe others also feel strongly about so that our joint requests would be heard.

Now giving me your opinion about this other guy's opinion, those 2 opinions are equally worthless and now YOU are derailing the thread by criticizing something that you don't even care about, which is the OP.

Do you support PLD, yes or no? If yes click LIKE, if no, go away.

I do not understand how the kids of today can even get through school with critical thinking skills that rival a trained monkey. That was an opinion, why don't you go make a critical thinking thread for you and all the trolls to debate in so you can feel important for a change.

Yes: LIKE, No: <See you again!> <Thank you!> Many thanks to everyone that actually understands what this thread is about, and many prayers for the weak minded that don't.

Like a solid 90% of this community you still have no idea what a troll is. Start a thread based on a debatable topic and you are going to get replies from both sides of the argument if you ask for them or not. This is a forum not a blog.

[Rearden]

Anyone know this guy in game? Sounds like a bundle of joy.

Edit: lol, I remember this guy...was in VS with him on Midgard. The running joke was "Why is he working on Excal, its not like he's even allowed to come on PLD anyway..."

[Tamoa]

I did not post an opinion

Yes you did. You're of the opinion that pld needs fixing one way or another.

Do you support PLD, yes or no? If yes click LIKE, if no, go away.

Yes I support pld. But I don't agree with your opinions regarding the job. So no, I won't click like, and I'm not going away, why should I, everyone has an equal right to post on this forum.

Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community

You mean such as this?:

I do not understand how the kids of today can even get through school with critical thinking skills that rival a trained monkey. That was an opinion, why don't you go make a critical thinking thread for you and all the trolls to debate in so you can feel important for a change.

Yes: LIKE, No: <See you again!> <Thank you!> Many thanks to everyone that actually understands what this thread is about, and many prayers for the weak minded that don't.

[AldielQuetz]

No, those are insults. And uh I'm not from Midgard, I am in a LS that's full of people from there now.

The reason I called this the last great hope was because I am done with this forum and all the people that just endlessly want to argue and debate where there is no room for debate.

I posted a call to action, I put suggestions to encourage people that had made similar attempts to have their ideas seen but had failed.

To continue to debate about whether PLD is good or bad, in need of this or that, deserving of spells or not, is completely not the point. That's why I didn't post "Derp, Hey guys, I think PLD needs fixings, what do you think?"

Because honestly I DON'T GIVE A F___ WHAT YOU THINK.

Good bye.

Emotional enough for ya trolls?

[Darkwizardzin]

The reason I called this the last great hope was because I am done with this forum and all the people that just endlessly want to argue and debate where there is no room for debate.

The reason many people are having problems with your thread is because of your attitude like what I have bolded. You seem to think everything you say are irrefutable facts that can't be debated.

Good bye.

I hope you were being serious here because honestly It doesn't seem like these forums are right for you. (Just be be clear this last statement I'm 100% serious about... I don't want you to take this as trolling just like you have for everything else I've said)

[Alhanelem]

Do you support PLD, yes or no? If yes click LIKE, if no, go away.

While I supported the premise of this thread (emphasized for people who say I disagree with everything), some people do feel that PLD is just fine. I'm not one of them, but you can't just tell people not to post because they don't feel the same way as you. As Darkwizardzin said, your topic doesn't contain irrefutable facts. It contains opinions. Some people might disagree with those opinions.

[Vicious]

Emotional enough for ya trolls?

Your tears are delicious.