The last, great hope..

[Rearden]

No and no. Support denied, orbital strike requested.

[Malamasala]

We deserve to get a spell if everyone else does, don't we?

I believe you get armors instead. I can't think of a single update that didn't add PLD/WAR/DRK armors, and in most cases they have been either good or side grades. Same with BLM/WHM/BRD/RDM/SMN armors being very good... for WHMs or BLMs. Complete trash for BRD or SMN in general.

We deserve better shield that aren't relics or empyreans, don't we?

I think all jobs deserve good items that aren't empys or mythics. I want a -3 perp +10 accuracy staff. Where are they? It is just silly that because one mythic has +30 accuracy and -6 perpetuation, I can't get one half as good. I'd almost be able to accept it if it had been the empy... but mythic with 30k alexandrite requirement? For the only staff SE did right? Why not try and sell me gold ingots in real life, I have about as big chance at affording those.

As you can see, I support PLD in all questions that go for all jobs. But I don't see them in need of anything specific to make just them the gods of vanadiel.

[Darkwizardzin]

Trolling about being called out as a troll....

/slowclap

This thread is about supporting PLD and discussing it's lack of attention when it's threads are on top of the charts.

We deserve to get a spell if everyone else does, don't we?

We deserve better shield that aren't relics or empyreans, don't we?

It seems the Wiz's logic is that anything that adds to PLD takes away from other jobs, and that's not the case nor am I asking for everyone else's jobs to be nerfed... I am simply asking for equal improvements across the board.

...I don't think you know what the word "trolling" means but I'll leave that point alone.

It seems the Wiz's logic is that anything that adds to PLD takes away from other jobs

When did I ever say or imply that? In every single post I've made in this thread I've said pld has problems that should be addressed.

We deserve to get a spell if everyone else does, don't we?

...your free to argue this point all you want. Personally I don't know why you didn't get a spell nor do I see the harm in it.

We deserve better shield that aren't relics or empyreans, don't we?

Again I don't see the problem with this... then again SE might for whatever reason but idk what's in there heads.

I am simply asking for equal improvements across the board.

If SE gave an equal improvement to every single job for every update then the jobs would be more imbalanced then they already are. (example if this was followed... war and mnk would have gotten new skills this update... and I'm pretty sure 80% of the player-base consider those two jobs OP already so that would hurt job balance even more)

What you consider equal SE could consider unequal in the long run. You have to see both sides of the issue.

[Atomic_Skull]

If a stat like Defense isn't effective in reducing damage, then let's make a job trait for that

PLD already takes the least damage of any job but that's not the problem.

[AldielQuetz]

Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.

Perhaps I was misjudging you and your response was emotional to begin with, maybe something I said touched a nerve, like mentioning SCH? I don't know, but my aim is not to take attention away from other people but to add attention to us. And I can appreciate your opinions but they were not constructive and this thread is about positivity and support.

We do need a spell, and a good tanking based one, like DRK got a good offensive one, in concept at least.

We also could use a better trait than a boost to defense which at this time is completely useless. Example: if defense did anything then using counter stance would be dangerous. It's not, so point made, Defense Bonus is useless.

I appreciate everyone's support and keep LIKEing this thread! We are slowing making it to the top of the charts again my fellow adventurers!

Thank you all m(_ _)m

[Insaniac]

So people are only allowed to post in this thread if they agree with you?

The only reason these PLD RDM and DRK threads stay at the top of the list is because they are points of contention. Usually someone in them has terrible ideas and a back and forth ensues keeping the views and post rolling in. PLD stays at the top because a large group of players disagree that the job really needs that much fixing.

[Alhanelem]

I wholly agree PLDs need more than they are getting.

That doesn't mean I agree with the OP's solutions; but I do agree that PLD still needs work to be the best tank as it should be.

[AldielQuetz]

Nobody has to agree with me, but as per the TOS, derailing a thread is grounds for termination of the privilege to use these forums. And people posting random opinions in a thread whose sole purpose is to rally support for PLD, is derailing.

That's all I am saying. Your opinions might be more valuable in a thread about discussing worthless opinions, maybe you might make a thread about that?

Thanks,

Management.

[Vicious]

And people posting random opinions in a thread whose sole purpose is to rally support for PLD, is derailing.

Sure, but thinking that PLD needs support in the first place is an opinion, as well. Forums are just that; a forum for discussion. If someone disagrees with your opinion on the matter, they are more than welcome to post as such. Disagreeing with the OP is not derailing; changing the entire subject to, say, the finer points of taco consumption, that is derailing.

Furthermore, you think his opinion is worthless? Given that everyone's opinions are exactly equal in worth, that makes yours worthless as well.

Finally, you aren't the management. Starting a thread doesn't give you some special rights over it; as soon as you post, it's public. Leave the finger-waving to the real management, the moderators.

[AldielQuetz]

I did not post an opinion, I posted a request for support from fellow adventurers about a specific job that I feel strongly about and I believe others also feel strongly about so that our joint requests would be heard.

Now giving me your opinion about this other guy's opinion, those 2 opinions are equally worthless and now YOU are derailing the thread by criticizing something that you don't even care about, which is the OP.

Do you support PLD, yes or no? If yes click LIKE, if no, go away.

I do not understand how the kids of today can even get through school with critical thinking skills that rival a trained monkey. That was an opinion, why don't you go make a critical thinking thread for you and all the trolls to debate in so you can feel important for a change.

Yes: LIKE, No: <See you again!> <Thank you!> Many thanks to everyone that actually understands what this thread is about, and many prayers for the weak minded that don't.