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  1. #41
    Player Hayward's Avatar
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    I know it's background and all (from FFXIclopedia), but Hocho has always struck me odd as the only crafting skill item limited to one job (Ninja).
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    Hayward: Cerberus-San d'Oria

    5/5 +1: Cirque [4/5], Tantra [4/5], Ferine [4/5], Estoqueur's [1/5], Sylvan, Navarch's [1/5], Savant's, Orison [1/5], Charis [2/5]

    5/5 +2: Creed, Caller's, Unkai, Iga, Raider's, Lancer's, Mavi, Ravager's, Goetia, Bale, Aoidos'

  2. #42
    Player Visari's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocker View Post
    Stuff like Ungur Boomerang its THF/NIN but it has 8mp on it.
    or better yet Gaudy Harness under 49 mp you get refresh on brd/bst and those jobs don't have any MP or castable spells on their own.
    Many more pieces of armor has stats like this as well and would love to know what they were thinking (or smoking) like giving bst so many hand to hand weapons but no skill in it at all.

    BST/NIN equipped with gaudy and 2 rune axes was a beautiful thing, only needed 1mp for the regen to proc so you got 10hp/tic (5hp per axe) and shadows.
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  3. #43
    Player StingRay104's Avatar
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    DRK has the highest GS skill in game and not allowed to use Mercurial GS.

    Also +++++++++ to anyone who brought up mage gear on PUP which is still happening today (see last update).

    Finally why does DRG get access to joytoy but not hauby.
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  4. #44
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    PUP actually was first suppose to be Necromancer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    1UP: The Blue Mages are something that fans have wanted for a long time based on their presence in the history of Final Fantasy. The Corsairs were a bit of a surprise, but the Puppetmaster was a really big surprise since there was never a precedent for such a job in Final Fantasy lore. How did you decide to create the Puppetmaster job class?

    KO: In the beginning when we were thinking of new jobs, we were first thinking of a Necromancer type of job, where the job would be able to raise the undead. However, we couldn't have undeads running around in the morning and that would weaken the class, because they'd only be able to work at night. So from there we tried to think of something where the player would be able to use a puppet type of...slave if you will, at all times of day, and that's how we got to Puppetmaster. [/I]

    http://www.1up.com/previews/ffxi-tre...pager.offset=4
    These two things contradict each other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    The decision to axe Necromancer came at a time when removing the job was no longer a feasable option, so they whipped up a quick fix in the form of Puppetmaster.
    First time I'm hearing this. Any evidence for that? I've already explained why this seems horribly implausible (as have others).
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  5. #45
    Player Kensagaku's Avatar
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    Annoyance but not really a big deal: BLUs getting club skill but getting crap for clubs. True Strike, man, gotta get those auto-crits! But really, why give us a skill we can hardly use? So I can bring out my Shellbuster for the occasional proc?

    Half the jobs on Avalon Breastplate? That's a lot of non-heavy-armor jobs using a breastplate. ._. MNK, THF, BRD, DNC, PUP, RNG... yet a lot of heavy-armor jobs can't use it.

    No hauby on DRG when it could use most heavy armors made me mayad in the past too. >.>
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  6. #46
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    @Arcon
    I'm not grasping how that is contradicting in any way can you please show us or at least dumb it down for me because to me it seems like hes agreeing and in the 2rd quote 1st paragraph 1up is asking questions to KO.

    As for last quote seems like a opinion which is understandable if they could not fix necromancer and they were halfway into or too deep where they had to switch the jobs completely before release and could not go through the armor/weapon selection in time. I could see that happening as for proof sounds like a impossible task to ask but if he has some awesome.

    Which if anything his opinion would no longer be a opinion considering that if you look at the website they did say they scraped the idea when they found out as soon as they figured out necromancer just could not work for them. assuming that gear was already setup does not need proof because the proof follows under the fact they had necromancer in mind when building it.
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    Last edited by InfiniteKarma; 09-13-2011 at 01:11 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    I think this is just a result of attempting to inject some realism.

    In a fantasy world with monsters, it isn't exactly a stretch to assume some monsters would just follow you out of curiosity.

    When I go to the park squirrels follow me. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    that's because you're nuts....

  7. #47
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteKarma View Post
    @Arcon
    I'm not grasping how that is contradicting in any way can you please show us or at least dumb it down for me because to me it seems like hes agreeing and in the 2rd quote 1st paragraph 1up is asking questions to KO.

    As for last quote seems like a opinion which is understandable if they could not fix necromancer and they were halfway into or too deep where they had to switch the jobs completely before release and could not go through the armor/weapon selection in time. I could see that happening as for proof sounds like a impossible task to ask but if he has some awesome.
    They say in the interview that they were thinking about something Necromancer-like, but figured out that they couldn't implement it for lore-related issues (although they seem to be ignoring the fact that undead are out in broad daylight in the Northlands, I'm sure they could have come up with an excuse for Necromancers to have them out as well). That means that PUP was not originally Necromancer and changed midway through development, like people here seem to think. It means that they had an idea for Necromancer, but scrapped it while figuring out the job details. So the pet idea was taken from Necromancer, but the rest was rethought, and PUP was born. Meaning when they got to the point of printing job labels on equipment, nothing of Necromancer was left.

    And again, I wanna mention the extensive Aht Urhgan lore, which features puppetmasters in their current form heavily. That means, that by the time they got to write the story, PUP was already in its current form. And the PUP system is completely new, like BLU as well, meaning they put a lot of thought into it. The fact that it features equipment alone distinguishes it from Necromancer, unless you keep pet undead which you have permanent equipment for.

    Saying that the dev team is miffed about axing Necromancer (something that didn't even technically happen, from what we know) is a groundless assumption. The fact that they screw up on job implementation is no indication for this either, since they do that on every job. PUP just got unluckier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteKarma View Post
    Which if anything his opinion would no longer be a opinion considering that if you look at the website they did say they scraped the idea when they found out as soon as they figured out necromancer just could not work for them. assuming that gear was already setup does not need proof because the proof follows under the fact they had necromancer in mind when building it.
    That is also a groundless assumption, and a weird one in that. Why would they have Necromancer in mind when building it, when they know they were not building Necromancer? I don't think the dev team is quite that naive. Or spiteful, for that matter. "We didn't get to make a Necromancer, now we're gonna do one in disguise, pah!"
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    Last edited by Arcon; 09-13-2011 at 01:30 AM.
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  8. #48
    Player Lushipur's Avatar
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    pus/sch. that's all folks.
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    Only the phoenix arises and does not descend. And everything changes. And nothing is truly lost.

  9. #49
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    SMN with dagger skills...
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    Main Job: SMN95 <Hvergelmir 85 obtained 9/10/11>
    Side Jobs: WHM95 DNC95
    Gimp Jobs: SCH95 NIN95
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    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Player Kensagaku's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    SMN with dagger skills...
    Ritual dagger for their summoning? D:
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