Blood Weapon: It's really bad.

[Cljader1]

Dark Knight should be able to do some type of special WS for a 2 hour ability

[uptempo]

Bloodweapon sucks, Kraken club drk sucks now and has done for a long time i laugh at the fools who try to sell one for 60 mil plus like they do on valefor and id laugh even harder at any moron drk who paid that much.

[Annalise]

Drain Samba doesn't actually drain the cure amount from the enemy's HP; It's more like an Additional Effect: cure hp.
So, no, it's not like the Drk's 2hr exactly.

You maybe missed something here. Blood weapon doesn't drain it either. Souleater + Bloodweapon DD of old, Bloodweapon was to keep the dark knight alive. Bloodweapon did not add additional damage.


"When active, all standard melee attacks will cause an Additional Effect that converts the damage inflicted into a "Drain" effect, healing the Dark Knight by 100% of the amount of damage inflicted. No additional damage is inflicted on the target, similar to Drain Samba. "

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Blood_Weapon

[Nynja]

Drain Samba doesn't actually drain the cure amount from the enemy's HP; It's more like an Additional Effect: cure hp.
So, no, it's not like the Drk's 2hr exactly.

Blood Weapon doesnt "drain" hp either, otherwise Jormungand would be hitting for 350-400 hp + 350-400hp drained with BW up, 700-800 dmg, which it doesnt. I got informed of that the hard way.

Kraken Club with Souleater without Blood Weapon has the same destructive power if you have 2 or 3 pocket whm's keeping you topped off

[Choerilos]

Besides all the other problems I love that our 2hour doesn't affect Undead. It not working during WS kind of sucks too when using it together with Souleater.

[Taint2]

Blood Weapon doesnt "drain" hp either, otherwise Jormungand would be hitting for 350-400 hp + 350-400hp drained with BW up, 700-800 dmg, which it doesnt. I got informed of that the hard way.

Kraken Club with Souleater without Blood Weapon has the same destructive power if you have 2 or 3 pocket whm's keeping you topped off

K.Club has very little value now for a DRK. K.Club was used for very hard mobs (at their time) to zerg. Now a mob is easy enough that it doesn't matter or the mob resist SE damage.

BW is a terrible JA and even worst as a 2hr. It had its time as a great 2hr but as SE got nerfed so did BW.

[Byrth]

Between SE/BW and Trance, I think I know which one is more useful? - Trance is useful in very rare situations. I play Dancer constantly and generally use it no more than once a week. SE/BW is a huge damage spike and heals you a pretty substantial amount thanks to Stalwart Soul and things like Gloom Breastplate.

Between Drain Samba and Haste Samba, I think I know which one never gets used? - There may be a chance to use Drain Samba after the next patch, but only because our bread and butter (Haste Samba) isn't going to be useful anymore. With capped delay reduction (the only situation where you'd consider using it), Drain Samba III works out to about 45 HP/tick Regen. Insignificant compared to SE/BW with any kind of multi-hit including Stalwart Soul and enhancing gear (you gain 7% HP per hit).

Why does this thread exist?

[Shiyo]

It exists because blood weapon is horrible? o_O

Eagle eye shot is also complete trash and is basically a barrage(5 min cd <_<) on a 2 hour timer...

Mijin is pretty bad too, it's at least useful but it does not warrant being a 2 hour. Perfect dodge is pretty crap too but at least has SOME uses. 2 hour abilities should be like hundred fists, invincible, benediction, chainspell, etc. "OH SHIT" buttons, extremely powerful abilities.

Trance is also incredible, dunno what you're talking about, -6 sec recast on waltz' + free TP cost, unlimited cures with a much lower recast and you can spam weaponskills while also cure spamming yourself/others. Not to even mention the free cost of steps and free samba costs. It's exactly what a 2 hour is supposed to be.

[Taint2]

Insignificant compared to SE/BW with any kind of multi-hit including Stalwart Soul and enhancing gear (you gain 7% HP per hit).

I've seen this suggested a few times, but really how practical is it to switch to multihit weapon just to get some HP back.

[StingRay104]

If they increased duration to 1 min and made it also drain the damage your healed, effectively doubling your damage to non undeads, then blood weapon as a 2hr would be fine. As is now it is really good as a 5-10 min ja.