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[SpankWustler]

During certain NMs with bad, unremovable poison or bio ( i mentioned this before ) during phases where if i know mp will drain quickly so i can use the lesser cures more often then higher cures (cure 3-4) while regen tops off the hp that was missing if they are not taking constant damage, The uses are rare but they are there and obviously very situaional, tho i am used to 75 days where it was a god send and i stuck to my method of playing whm for years, main thing is i refuse to let abyssea "spoil" my playstyle, it has worked fine for me since, and i wish to keep it when things happen outside again, and yes it has died down since then but i still use it when it's needed.

WHM is not a hard job, most people can get away with the "cure till the mob is dead" playstyle and that is honestly what is ticking me off. but i grin and bare it.

Obviously i raged, but i hate when people say certain spells are "useless" or "not worth it" because they fail to try or actually use it correctly.

Never said i "replaced" regen with cures. i am not dumb and just regen with somone in yellow HP or about to die.

there. that all you needed?

Thanks for taking the time to explain in detail.

While I'd personally just let people stay a little below full and cast Cure III more often to save a few more MP, I can understand how Regen could be useful in that situation and that sounds totally kosher.

I've met enough Cure V/Cure VI/AFK VII White Mages to understand some of your rage, I guess. I don't know what makes healing jobs in FFXI so hard to play, but I've encountered plenty of folks in-game who think status ailments age like a particularly smelly European cheese.

It's always a bad idea to totally dismiss any spell in White Mage's spell list, other than maybe Diaga, since the job has roughly two billion niche spells for two billion niches. Actually, Diaga is my favorite spell.

[Vortex]

Thanks for taking the time to explain in detail.

While I'd personally just let people stay a little below full and cast Cure III more often to save a few more MP, I can understand how Regen could be useful in that situation and that sounds totally kosher.

I've met enough Cure V/Cure VI/AFK VII White Mages to understand some of your rage, I guess. I don't know what makes healing jobs in FFXI so hard to play, but I've encountered plenty of folks in-game who think status ailments age like a particularly smelly European cheese.

It's always a bad idea to totally dismiss any spell in White Mage's spell list, other than maybe Diaga, since the job has roughly two billion niche spells for two billion niches. Actually, Diaga is my favorite spell.

Because whm requires you to pay attention and think to be good at it. and a surprising number of players have a hard time with these concepts, which is why DNC and SCH or not popular or you get that one idiot saying "this job sucks" because they are the 2 jobs that require ALOT of thinking to be good at. it's just how this community is. nothing you can do about, general rule with most players is if it's easy it's popular, which is why SAM and MNK were bandwagoned to hell because they require very little thinking, and are just mainly auto attack ---> press a macro. i hate that in this game but what can you do?

If you have ever played Demon's souls that type of fighting engine is what i wish FF had, you can't just "run up and attack" in that game or you will go no further then the 1st stage.

[Economizer]

It's always a bad idea to totally dismiss any spell in White Mage's spell list, other than maybe Diaga, since the job has roughly two billion niche spells for two billion niches. Actually, Diaga is my favorite spell.

That would totally have been relevant if anyone explaining why Regen is an MP inefficient way to cure people actually said there was never a use. You came up with a few niche reasons it should be used, I came up with a few niche reasons it should be used, and other commentators came up with a few niche reasons it should have been used, but those were ignored in favor of telling us we are crappy White Mages who don't know how to play the job.

Also, Diaga is not my favorite spell, but it is my most MP efficient one for wiping shadows.

[SpankWustler]

Also, Diaga is not my favorite spell, but it is my most MP efficient one for wiping shadows.

Oh, I use it for wiping something, but it's not shadows!

Actually, that's a good point about Diaga. I've always used Banishga every time entirely out of habit, since I'm in the frame of mind that I'm getting rid of the shadows so I can sleep something with Repose even when that's not the case.

As for the rest, I tend to be a jerk due to chronic pain so I often make a conscious effort to think positively about what motivates people, the chances of something just being a misunderstanding, etc. Even on the internet when it doesn't really matter that much, I find it to be very good practice.

So, I'd like to think that Vortex just went a bit overboard, in a big part because of me misunderstanding the extent to which he or she was advocating Regen.

[Vortex]

That would totally have been relevant if anyone explaining why Regen is an MP inefficient way to cure people actually said there was never a use. You came up with a few niche reasons it should be used, I came up with a few niche reasons it should be used, and other commentators came up with a few niche reasons it should have been used, but those were ignored in favor of telling us we are crappy White Mages who don't know how to play the job.

Wrong, but since the matter is droped, ill let you keep whatever helps you sleep at night.

Also, Diaga is not my favorite spell, but it is my most MP efficient one for wiping shadows.

Your sarcasm is neither funny nor intellegent, it''s kids like you that keep arguments going for no other reason then you need something to nit pick, like when i displayed a word that was true for you a few posts back you went and cried to a mod because your feelings got hurt, grow up.

So, I'd like to think that Vortex just went a bit overboard, in a big part because of me misunderstanding the extent to which he or she was advocating Regen.

It wasnt just you, most of what i said seemd to have been misunderstood, and some pople like economizer simply belive what they want and give passive aggresive responses because they are immature. but in this case i'd have to be the bigger person.

[Ahrana]

It wasnt just you, most of what i said seemd to have been misunderstood, and some pople like economizer simply belive what they want and give passive aggresive responses because they are immature. but in this case i'd have to be the bigger person.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Vortex]

Pot, meet kettle.

do you know what that means? because it does not apply to me in any way, unless you just felt like raising your post count by 1.

[Ahrana]

do you know what that means? because it does not apply to me in any way, unless you just felt like raising your post count by 1.

I think you just proved my point more elegantly than I could have.

Or else you're just a troll, and after rereading this thread I think it's completely possible. I'll still wave to you in game though <3

[Vortex]

I think you just proved my point more elegantly than I could have.

Or else you're just a troll, and after rereading this thread I think it's completely possible. I'll still wave to you in game though <3

that you just wanted a +1? i guess i did prove it .

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whatever helps you sleep at night. btw try out a dictionary. it is already clear you are a troll. but yea, have a nice day.

you don;t really have to wave, it will just make me feel bad and the exact same as a sloberring cross eyed kid waving at me and smiling.