SE, Please Delete Scarlet Delirium

[Rearden]

14.64s to 100TP with Apoc

14.28s to 100TP with Cala

Not factoring DA or Zanshin, but that favors Cala anyway.

[Return1]

A 5 hit with Catastrophe means you need 4 hits to make 100tp after the WS.

Catastrophe total delay to 100tp: 2052 delay.

A 7 hit with Torcleaver on Caladbolg means you need 6 hits to make 100tp after WS:

Torcleaver total delay to 100tp: 2580 delay

That's ~25.7% slower for the GS. DA also favors Catastrophe because the delay between rounds is larger, meaning it's a larger boost in terms of speed when multihits proc.

Keep on failing.

[Rearden]

I would love to see the 5hit WS build for Cata.

I also have no idea where you're coming up with your numbers for total delay unless you're assuming 15% total haste or 5% and Hasso but then again I'd still love to just see the 5hit WS build for Cata.

[Soidisant]

I use

TP
Apocalypse
Rose Strap
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White Tathlum
Bale Burgeonet +2
Ganesha's Mala
Brutal Earring
Bale Earring
Armadaberk (STP +6, DA +3)
Bale Gauntlets +2
Hoard Ring
Rajas Ring
Atheling Mantle
Goading Belt
Calmecac Trousers
Ace's Leggings

STP gear on WS - Brutal Earring, Rose Strap, Armadaberk, Rajas Ring, Ace's Leggings.


You're basically sacrifing feet (which isn't a huge tradeoff) and augmented P. Body. Worth it in the long run.

[Return1]

I would love to see the 5hit WS build for Cata.

I also have no idea where you're coming up with your numbers for total delay unless you're assuming 15% total haste or 5% and Hasso but then again I'd still love to just see the 5hit WS build for Cata.

It only takes 44 STP to make a 5 hit with Apoc. You can go about that in many, many ways. I'll give one example:

15 /SAM
5 Food
4 Rose strap
1 Brutal
5 Rajas
4 Hoard
5 Goading
5 Ace's

44 total. Not ideal because you're limited in WS swaps in some slots, but there are literally dozens of ways to 5 hit with Apoc.


If you don't get how I came up with the delay I can't tell if serious or trolling...

[Soidisant]

Set-up I posted doesn't require you eat STP food for the record so you can stick with RCB's. I did toy with Arrabbiata for a while but it worked out worse.

Basically if you TP in 47 STP, you need to WS in 33 STP to 5 hit. SAM sub, Rose, Armadaberk, Brutal, Rajas is 31. So you can either use something like Ace's Leggings, White Tathlum or Hoard to WS in or you can use Atilla's when TP'ing and WS in whatever.

[Alhanelem]

Mnks and Pups get out of this thread....go find your own thread to argue about, pummel vs victory smite is a derail take that crap somewhere else. This thread is about SE deletion of Scarlet Delirium, and I promptly expect them to delete or greatly overhaul it

I don't need you to tell me what's a derail and what isn't. that's why I said it was off track and i wasn't going to continue. That being said it's a public forum and people can post where they want, so you can't tell people to "get out."


...Anyway, what's with all the listing of TP gear. I was pretty sure that gear is really not part of the problem with DRK. It's one of two things or a combination of both in my view:

1) Scythe WS cannot compete as well in the current crits-are-everything metagame, and unusual WS mods on some WS do not fit with the stats DRKs care about most.
2)spells and abilities that do not fully support the concept of making sacrifices to deal maximum damage (as DRK isn't regarded as capable of dealing the most damage right now), or may have at one time but have been since nerfed to hell (e.g. the signature ability, souleater, being completely useless in any meaningful fight)

[SNK]

It sadly is true that DRK is pretty much in the crapper at this time even with the new JA which with only a 1 minute duration seems week as garbage.

I had hoped for something better but not this...

[Alhanelem]

Still, "deleting" it doesn't accomplish anything. Does the OP think that they could reclaim all the time they spent on it and immediately slap on something else in it's place if they did? Because no, they couldn't.

[Chriscoffey]

Dark knight is like being the figuratively speaking "black sheep" of the FFXI family. We are here and SE recognizes us but it's as if we are thrown bread crumbs while everyone else eats steak and complains how we should be thankful about the bread.