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  1. #61
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    ITT: People who aren't good at their jobs complain about Abyssea making other people not good at their jobs
    Agreed. and let me reiterate. Six months later, the guy who burned it will be better than the guy who leveled old school. He has more experience playing at level cap. Your just mad because your playing with people at 90 who haven't capped skill yet as if it was way more fun when they sucked at lower levels. Its far less detrimental to the group at 90 than it was in a 6 man PUG.
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  2. #62
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie View Post
    I'm for the minimum level increase being bumped up to 60. If you were crazy it didn't take a week to get 60 even without fields/grounds of valor. Recently, my friends brother joined the game for the first time and was level 33 the next day lol. My other friend got both RNG and SAM to 60 with essentially capped skills outside of abyssea recently and that only took at maximum 3 or 4 days (including both of them.)

    I think it would be wroth doing.
    I'm going to move that it be lowered to 1. I get more exp solo doing EP mobs than I would in your Dunes party, and I'm sick of people inviting me to that crap 1000 times when I don't have my flag up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I'm going to move that it be lowered to 1. I get more exp solo doing EP mobs than I would in your Dunes party, and I'm sick of people inviting me to that crap 1000 times when I don't have my flag up.
    maybe you should use /anon
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  4. #64
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    Bads will be bad.
    Giving Abyssea a requirement will not make people better at the game.
    I'd love for someone to explain how killing Colibri for hours on end, day after day, makes anyone better at ANYTHING you do at 90.
    If you want to level outside of Abyssea, good for you! Ground of Valor is an EXCELLENT resource for you! Even more-so after this coming update!

    All in all -- it is far too late to make a requirement for Abyssea.
    SE sold us this product ensuring us that we'd be able to access the content at level 30.
    Just as well, anyone who has burned all their jobs to 90 would have a severe advantage over anyone who has yet to do so.

    Oh and one last thing.
    A level 60 "cap" as some have been calling it in this thread...
    You realize that would mean you couldn't be ABOVE level 60?
    I don't think people know what the word means.
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    Some people like to think cap means both at least and at most. I hope they don't have drivers licenses.
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    I agree with OP! Should be capped at 75 minimum
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Its actually to stem off the RMT from leveling mad characters as fast (Although who has seen one lately).
    Quetz still has RMT... They Shout Abyssea Parties for leechers to come out between 50-100k an hour... They then turn around and sell that money.

    Its been getting worse slowly day by day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moink View Post
    Quetz still has RMT... They Shout Abyssea Parties for leechers to come out between 50-100k an hour... They then turn around and sell that money.

    Its been getting worse slowly day by day.
    I think you have confused "RMT" with "players willing to offer leech spots to make a quick buck". I could be wrong though, since I haven't been on Quetz for a few months now, but when I was still there I'm fairly certain it was players doing it and not RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    I think you have confused "RMT" with "players willing to offer leech spots to make a quick buck". I could be wrong though, since I haven't been on Quetz for a few months now, but when I was still there I'm fairly certain it was players doing it and not RMT.
    It was players for a while and to some extent still is. But RMT groups also do it. The nice thing is they're easy to identify - very little English understanding, terrible gear, and much less efficient than the player ones.

    I always assumed the 30 cap was to minimize RMT too. How do these groups fair in GoV burns now though? I wonder if that's why we're now seeing them show up in Abyssea on Quetz.
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    Cool beans. Good to know it's not just someone being all "grrr, selling leech spots is RMT" because they're jealous that they can't leech or whatever.
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