The test server is more fun than the real game.

[Aver]

Uh oh, Rosina posted.

Ibtnuke

[Modoru]

Leveling is a lot better than it used to be, once you get a job in the 70ish range. But getting to that point? Impossible w/o paying someone for a FC PT or spending weeks trying to grind to that point. Even then, trying to get to 30 is a time consuming endeavor. Of all the things I plan on mentioning, this is the esiest, but it's still too time consuming and distracts from making actual progress in the game. Especially, for example, when BLMs are required to take up BRD just to proc.

Wrong. Getting a job to 30 is ridiculously easy with Grounds Tome. GoV makes leveling really fast. As for 30-90, you obviously haven't met the large amount of people who have leeched their jobs to 90 in a few hours, maybe a few days, per job.

Utsusemi Ni is still over 1mil. That is the most agregious example but there are still plenty of ones like Raise 3, Phalanx, and High tier / procing BLM spells. Where are we supposed to get the gil for all of this?

The items are what hurt me the most. There is no way to get any of them unless you con a LS in to getting them for you. There are jobs like PLD, SMN and RDM that require these items to even be playable. No LS or person is going to help you get anything they want for themselves. Then there are consumable items that are so expensive I can't even level NIN or RNG for a main and I haven't even touched PUP just because I can't afford the expense to even try it.

Either you have no friends, or your LS is filled by a bunch of selfish dicks. I just can't fathom another example. Sure, a few select spells are expensive, but with abyssea and usually unused dom points, you can make a mill easily after ONE lengthy party [which, HEY, you can get from leeching or generally partying in abyssea!]
NIN is not as expensive to level any more, as far as consumables go, because shihei are cheap per stack [4k/stack in siren, eg.] and you no longer need spell-specific tools other than Shihei [Utsusemi], Sanjuku-Tenugui [monomi] and Shinobi-Tabi [tonko].
As for RNG, it's still slightly expensive, sure, but only if you're buying the most expensive arrows or something of the sort, because generally you can last on RNG with lower-level arrows [Scorpion arrows, beetle arrows? last for a while.]

As for getting people to help: As I said before; you either have no friends, or your LS is a bag of dicks... or you have no LS. Even then, you can ALWAYS find someone here and there to be helpful and try to assist you in obtaining certain things, so long as you allow yourself to do the same for them. Otherwise, you're just being selfish and your argument is "waah, why don't I have people to do whatever I want on a whim, with no reward to them?".

Oh, and farming for gil is not hard at all. Elshena/Saltena/Pitaru ingredients are easy to find and easy to farm. Look into it.

IDK anyone with max parrying or max guard skill, let alone both. I also have trouble believeing anyone has taken a wep not native to their main job past 200. I tried for days to get past 200 with staff, club, dagger, polearm and greatsword with my PLD. The mobs are either too weak and will give no skill ups or too tough and won't give skill ups. I have sience given up.

Again, with abyssea, a lot of people [mostly WAR] have dedicated their time to skilling up their weapons and unlocking trial WS [at least 10 people on my friendslist have done so on separate occasions, I've helped them for Light/Dark SC.] As for Parry/Guard, most people haven't gotten it, but it's also hard as hell to get anyway.

I know you can't make the real game as easy as the test server but there has to be some kind of happy medium. Most of this could be fixed by making it easier for people who need a PT to find each other or giving multiple drops for PTs that all want the same thing. I had an idea for this that went ignored.

[x]

..."/sea all inv X-Y", and furthermore, "/seacom"

But ultimatly access to all these things are up to you. IDC how you do it, but if these are all the things one needs to play the game as you intend, then you need to make them easier to get. Even though I've been playing seince 2004 and have multinple 90s, (sarcasim)I'm just an english speaking n00b(/sarcasim) and my ideas are not welcome.

These things aren't required, and I've explained why in each one. This game doesn't need to be easier, nor "harder". It's fine as is.

[Modoru]

No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

You also forgot CoP/ToAU/ZM/WotG. All of which people need to do if they want Salvage, Temenos, Sky, Sea and such.

[Kari]

What's borring is trying to skill up for days and not getting any. What's borring is trying to put together a group of under geared people to try and get something decent. What's borring is having to grind for money. People have been ignoring the fact that I asked for a happy medium. There has to be some kind of compromise to get past the grinding crap and get on with the real game.

Holy. Crap.
You are bad.
There is not a single MMO in the WORLD that is going to satisfy you.
You might want to try more single-player games.
You seem to enjoy the test server, which is basically playing alone and having things handed to you, with no gratification of earning anything.

And for both the OP and some of the replies...
MMOs are all about grinding.
And [lolrosina], grinding is doing the same thing over and over to progress.
Trying to randomly come up with an excuse to say how leveling =/= grinding is pointless.

If this game is too hard for you, quit playing.
If you don't like grinding, quit playing MMOs.

[Mookies75]

Sorry OP. I tried to read your post, but it became extremely apparent halfway through that you're a moron.

[Soranika]

Seriously..... you know, I remember when 10-12k exp per hour was the best thing since a loaf of bread and exp rings actually made leveling faster and people actually play their jobs "kinda" like it was suppose to.
All the recent changes HAVE made it more accessible for "casual" players yet while still having things out there for those who are hardcore, like crafting remaining relatively unchanged, adding new battle fields and voidwatch.

[Babekeke]

[QUOTE=Inafking;191619I also have trouble believeing anyone has taken a wep not native to their main job past 200. I tried for days to get past 200 with staff, club, dagger, polearm and greatsword with my PLD. The mobs are either too weak and will give no skill ups or too tough and won't give skill ups. I have sience given up.[/QUOTE]

Leech war to 90, put your perle on and go to the boyahda tree with /dnc45 with a low level (preferably with +acc) weapon of every type, acc food or skillup food, try for martial master when it's available. Leave when you hit 250 on everything and head to aby and grab some mnk mobs with regen atmas on (and a rdm friend wiuth 5/5 phaslanx 2 if you have 1).

Oh look, all of your weapons are capped (apart from katana and GK). Doesn't take long to unlock all of the quested WS either (took me 2 hours to help a friend with retribution from him activating quest, to him unlocking the WS. That includes chocoing from tahrongi twice. I was on rdm and didn't melee at all to make SCs for him, he had no trouble making level 2 solo).

[Catsby]

The OP's asshurt is palpable.

Nothing in FFXI is difficult if you are capable joining a linkshell and even less if you are capable of making friends.

I love the parts of the thread where people use "test server" and "fun" in the same post though. I literally started laughing when I read some of them. People actually think that test servers are there so they can get a special sneak peeks/preview of the next update(hilarious!).

No.Your ass is there to do QA work and help stop broken and boring features from making into release. Pick any of the previous updates and there is bound to be something broken either functionally (discoids suddenly doing 10k damage) or fundamentally(evolith's not having a purpose). The test server was opened to lessen the chances of that happening.

[Sira]

My goal is to be the very best, like no one ever was.

To beat the game is my real test, acting childish without pause.

I will travel across the land, leeching far and wide.

I won't cast haste or swap my gear, with my playstyle you will abide.

Rosina, it's you and me. I know it is my destiny.

Rosina, oh you're my best friend. It's this world of Vana d'iel we must defend.

Rosina, a heart so true, only our courage will pull us through.

you are my hero

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The test server is more fun than the real game.

Just think of all that fun you'll be having after the updates when there's nothing to test.