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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Ganesha's Mala
    sucks. Because your quadruple attack is awesome when it procs on 3rd or 4th it.

    Ganesha's Mask
    Mathed by several people to be inferior than mnk AF3 head for instance.

    , Fazhuelo Radiant Mail, Strendu Ring, Strendu Mantle, Langeleik, Mextli Harness say que pasa
    junk.
    Not to mention, upcoming VW drops surpass every piece of gear for every job in every slot they are offered for.
    junk except cure potency for RDM which is no longer a healer.

    Azteca body 2 eff
    Body Ex Rare Lv95
    Defense60 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Double Attack+2%
    Sphere:Haste+2% Combination:Triple Attack+3%
    MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC
    You never wondered why they didn't put better stats than AF3+2 on it ?

    Azteca head 2
    Head Rare Lv95
    Defense31 DEX+12 AGI+12 Haste+6% Regen Combination:Triple Attack+3%
    MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC
    seriously ?

    China body 2 eff
    Body Ex Rare Lv95
    Defense70 VIT+17 Physical damage-8% Change 14% physical damage to TP
    Sphereouble Attack+2% Combination:Haste+8%
    WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
    seriously ?

    I will say, it will be fun watching AF3 MNKs (Which laughably, you aren't) run around at 95. At least they'll be better geared than a MNK wearing full Usu.
    When are you finally going to do maths to back up your claims ? Typical BG.
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    Pchan lol you noob
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    pchan wears full usu? for.. what?
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    Gchan full times full Usu, cause AF3 is garbage and gear swaps are for noobs.
    (and if he even tries to argue this I will go find the quotes of him saying it)

    Anyway, On the MNK AF3+2 hat vs Gan mask comment, how does 7 STR and a 1% Increase to whatever the kick attacks augment is beat 4% attack exactly?
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 09-11-2011 at 04:04 AM.

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    The math he's referencing was done by BG noobs in which it showed that in 2/3 presented situations (the 2 situations representing 90% of gameplay) Ganesha's mask outperformed AF3+2
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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    The math he's referencing was done by BG noobs in which it showed that in 2/3 presented situations (the 2 situations representing 90% of gameplay) Ganesha's mask outperformed AF3+2
    When are finally going to provide numbers ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    When are finally going to provide numbers ?
    Why don't you provide numbers, or anything of value, you NEVER do, just scream for others to do it, when you're the one claiming BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    i think they are saying on monk they only had 75% hit rate but still thats really REALLY hard to see the acc so low. The tonberry and the Vamp are the only 2 ive fought that had retarded evasion.
    Which is kinda funny since I was talking about WAR, and they're calling me a liar cause their MNK sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Which is kinda funny since I was talking about WAR, and they're calling me a liar cause their MNK sucks.
    So you are basically claiming that WAR has naturally ~150 more accuracy than a monk. The dex bonus from 2handed weapons will give you 30 at best. Your a liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    So you are basically claiming that WAR has naturally ~150 more accuracy than a monk. The dex bonus from 2handed weapons will give you 30 at best. Your a liar.


    My MNK loses 25 accuracy to my WAR during TP phase due to DEX. My MNK gains 30 accuracy due to Focus or can maintain 25/30 accuracy at all times if timers are separated, but for the sake of fuck lets just assume all buffs are up.

    Advantage during TP phase: MNK (523 accuracy) to WAR (508 accuracy)

    For a WAR or MNK to parse 75% accuracy (with buffs up) the mob would need to have roughly 680-700 evasion.

    Since we know monster stat progression mimics our own, what you're insinuating is either one of two fallacies:

    1. VW mobs gain Evasion Bonus XXXV

    2. VW mobs are level 150
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    dont forget you lose capped haste, also from a lazyness stand point i love not having to swap the head in and out for perfect counter.

    theres also assuming Fstr is capped at all times.

    aso with 533 atk *my base outside abyssea* G mask is +21atk
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    Last edited by Gokku; 09-11-2011 at 04:10 AM.

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