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  1. #141
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    Applications? It's MP. It's measurable. You spend it.
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    Precisely the sort of enlightened discourse I'd expect from you, thanks.
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    Lyltia: RDM SCH BLM WHM NIN SMN BLU PLD THF DRK
    Aegis 95 Kannagi 90 Almace 90 Hvergelmir 90

    Valkyri: BRD WHM COR THF RDM BLM SCH
    Daurdabla 99 Gjallarhorn 99 Armageddon 90 Twashtar 90

  3. #143
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    Let's break it down for you then: MP is spent on spells, avatar perp, and avatar BPs. If you get more MP, you can spend more. If you get too much of it, nothing happens. 14.4 refresh + 2 autorefresh = 328MP/minute. Just sitting around doing nothing, you can afford to keep an avatar out for 3 perp and spam BP rages.

    Repeat this calculation for any number you want to fantasize about. Speculation about how much MP you will have from a BP that doesnt exist is not "enlightened."
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  4. #144
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    No consideration whatsoever of how it would affect parties, or SMN's place in them, just some easy math, a pissy attitude, and a handwave. No wonder nobody likes you.
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    Lyltia: RDM SCH BLM WHM NIN SMN BLU PLD THF DRK
    Aegis 95 Kannagi 90 Almace 90 Hvergelmir 90

    Valkyri: BRD WHM COR THF RDM BLM SCH
    Daurdabla 99 Gjallarhorn 99 Armageddon 90 Twashtar 90

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    No consideration whatsoever of how it would affect parties, or SMN's place in them, just some easy math, a pissy attitude, and a handwave. No wonder nobody likes you.
    shut down~
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    /thread for you dallas
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    Leonheart rarely gets likes from me... but he definitely scored one today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    No consideration whatsoever of how it would affect parties, or SMN's place in them, just some easy math, a pissy attitude, and a handwave. No wonder nobody likes you.
    I tell you what, princess... If you want to know how regain BPs will impact parties, ask that, and not this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    Here's an interesting question; how much better does Hvergelmir become in non-melee situations if we get a Regain BP on the way to 99?
    You show me the tardilope that figured out your question, then we can figure out why they didn't respond to you.
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    I know this is stupid obvious, but regain is otherwise useless in "non-melee situations." Hey, he asked it.

    EDIT to add: SMN having problems getting invited to non-melee situations? Dubya-Tee-Eff. LOL
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    Last edited by Dallas; 09-06-2011 at 02:45 PM.

  10. #150
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    I believe I responded to your initial post where you flashed your considerable math skills with this:

    but I was looking for more of an answer regarding the applications and implications of such an ability.
    Anyone posting in good faith would have been able to figure out that I was expanding on the initial question to better articulate the sort of discussion I was looking for in the first place. Failure to do so indicates one of two things; you willfully ignored it so you could pursue being a jackass, or you're retarded.

    Since I'm a nice guy, I'm going to let you take your pick.
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    Lyltia: RDM SCH BLM WHM NIN SMN BLU PLD THF DRK
    Aegis 95 Kannagi 90 Almace 90 Hvergelmir 90

    Valkyri: BRD WHM COR THF RDM BLM SCH
    Daurdabla 99 Gjallarhorn 99 Armageddon 90 Twashtar 90

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