Any new HNM coming?

[Fondle]

one thing i have yet to see mentioned, who is holding you back from camping fafhogg/kb/aspid/tiamat, you want you hnm's they are still there

you can get your ls and have claim wars, you can have one of them bot and you can outclaim them and rub it in and be all like "I BEAT BOTTERS ON MY PS2" and no one will care

Some people already have A:hands and W:Body and hauticlaires, so what incentive do we have to continue going to those outdated monsters though we enjoyed the content while it was still relevant

[Loir]

Some people already have A:hands and W:Body and hauticlaires, so what incentive do we have to continue going to those outdated monsters though we enjoyed the content while it was still relevant

The same incentive to enjoy outdated concepts such as contested world spawns with day-long respawn times

[Orson]

OMG lmao that sig is absolutely perfect for that post my good sir.

[Dazusu]

Stuff

You just took what I said and twisted it about several different ways to make it sound absurd.

They could make a world spawn that pops every 5 minutes after death. That's accessible, no?

At what point did I say I wanted to spend 1-24 hours, or 1-72 hours camping a HNM?

For the players that don't have "time to camp stupid HNMs", there exists 9 whole zones of Abyssea. Fantastic!

What you're saying is (I'm paraphrasing you understand): "There shouldn't be any content that I don't agree with, or have time to do myself."

[Sureal]

having world pop hnm's is broken, no matter what you do to it, if you have them spawn in the wild every 2 mins, there will be a ls that bots every claim, end of story

i really dont get why people are so against force pop nm's, the only, i repeat, THE ONLY thing you are "losing" is the claim battle, you still get the challenge of the fight, and /gasp, you actually get to fight, instead of standing in one spot for 3 hours hoping you didnt just waste your day, this game is not just for endgame players, its for everyone, some level 15 war newb pays the same money that you pay to play, why shouldnt they get a chance to experience everything, what makes you better than him, me, or anyone else, world pop hnm's advocate a distintion between players, those who bot and those who dont (and those who claim everything on ps2)

the first time i ever saw someone running around with a koenig cuirass i still remember to this day, i started playing at pc launch waaaaay back when, so when i got to jeuno the first time it was all level 40ish characters and such, prolly 2 weeks after i got to jeuno i saw a japanese player named Cobra wearing a koenig cuirass and i about drooled on myself, it took me a while longer to get to 75 and to get into a ls that actually attempted hnm's, but getting to camps we soon found out that a japanese ls fantastic impromptu basically had a complete stranglehold on all things endgame, this lasted for years, because not only did they have the best bots, but of course the had the ping as well from being in japan, this got incredibly frustrating, it wasnt until i was in a ls that said to hell with it, we want this gear too, that we did what we had to, we all got ps2's..., wait, thats wrong lol, like i said, we did what we had to, but we still couldnt get a steady claim rate until FI broke completely, literally 4-5 years of complete domination in endgame, bahamut was, being the first server online, very heavily comtrolled by japanese players, this was not fun, and put a deep resentment in me towards a few select players

i will be the first to admit that in the real world there are people that you just do not like, but this is a game, you should not literally hate people just because of what they are doing, THIS IS A GAME, i pay my money to do everything in this game, unless you want to contact SE and ask them to have some players pay less than you so you can have access to parts of the game that others do not, world pop hnm's need to die in a fire

sorry if thats a tad incoherent, its 8 in the morning

[Loir]

I feel bad for you guys from bahamut. We had an oldschool member that was with us for a couple months before vanishing back to WoW and the stories he would tell of bahamut in its infancy were far worse than anything I had personally experienced on Asura. Between your JP dominance than the later UAE shells I would hear about I kinda have pity for ya. Though granted like yourself I was and still in one of those LS's that took beyond the normal means to get those claims for drops and I have spent my time in the aery, dom, VoS, and pre-pandy merge through the past zones doing all forms of world spawns.

The trend in this MMO and what seems to be shown in others is less of the creation of the contested world spawns and more the ability to allow everyone equal access regardless of when their play schedule allows for. It worked for EQ AC and AO but that was almost a decade ago and the greater masses of players in the MMO market are sitting between casual and dedicated with a small hardcore fanbase. I really doubt a complany these days is going to go out of their way and re-alienate the larger fanbase to appease the few.

By no means am I personally against whatever current end-game SE decides to give us post 90 as already I am more than blindly ablidged to anything they give us be it another 3 king world spawn scenario or abyssea-esque time/reward system. Just stating that world-constested spawns are a dinosaur of MMOs, just as much as the holy-trinity of classes DD/healer/Tank. Though thank god the mindset of most of the community these days is to blend that dd and tank.

[Sureal]

god, i completely forgot about Sisteforsek, or sister*bleep* lol, god they were horrid, they just did not care at all, bought characters, had all the bots, charaters got banned, GO BUY ANOTHER, and good lord were they terrible, wiping to fafnir was a reoccuring theme with them

[Loir]

For asura we either drove the JPs out with our heavy NA linkshells with bots or they really had all the drops from those mobs. Will and Armada were the only JPs worth a damn. Will only camped if their members needed something and Armada were tools. Altimus was the guy that joined us for a bit. Not sure if his name is known much these days. Though he might be back playing on bahamut now.

[Sureal]

lol, yeah he is, he was in Apkallu Vendetta with me

[Natenn]

All this talk about unbeatable botters gettin me excited i wanna fight em to