FINAL FANTASY XI Job Adjustments Manifesto: Paladin

[Andrien]

Time to level dark knight instead!

Already done that. It was the most emo'tional experience I've had while playing.. Don't ask.

[DebbieGibson]

Because it should be useful or not exist. Telling me to play a different job does nothing to solve the problem of a class with no job to fill.

And I do play different jobs. I'd like to break out the heavy armor every once in a while. Paladin is easily the best-dressed job in the game, but there's no reason to pull any of my gear out of my locker. This is a problem.

You still don't seem to understand that "play a different job if pld isn't needed" means you'll never be on Paladin. There's no reason to play it, outside of unfamiliar T4 Voidwatch NMs. Once people figure out the gimmicks to those enemies, that too will be an event where Paladin is shelved in favor of SAM, WAR, DRK and MNK. This cycle of figuring out new content will continue until there is no more new content on the horizon, and then Paladin will be permanently out of a job. This is what needs addressing. All the short-sighted people on here barking about Voidwatch are obfuscating the underlying problem.

Well how do you play a tank class in a game that doesn't need a tank? Maybe you're right, the best thing to do is just eliminate it.

[Andrien]

Since they're enhancing shield blocks.

(and since Cure IV is kind of obsolete)
A magic spell to make shield blocks absorb a portion of damage to restore HP.

Random additional effect Amnesia/Mute/Stun with Shield Bash. 5sec duration with mute and amnesia

[DebbieGibson]

Since they're enhancing shield blocks.

(and since Cure IV is kind of obsolete)
A magic spell to make shield blocks absorb a portion of damage to restore HP.

Random additional effect Amnesia/Mute/Stun with Shield Bash. 5sec duration with mute and amnesia

How do these things make pld useful to a group who can simply tank with one of the damage dealers?

[Andrien]

How do these things make pld useful to a group who can simply tank with one of the damage dealers?

I don't know what new difficult content is ahead of us. I was thinking in the future and the survivability of the job. Cut me some slack this is all I can think of that makes pld unique with shields lol.

[DebbieGibson]

I don't know what new difficult content is ahead of us. I was thinking in the future and the survivability of the job. Cut me some slack this is all I can think of that makes pld unique with shields lol.

I suggest shield bash giving a +30% damage taken effect to the mob.

[Andrien]

I suggest shield bash giving a +30% damage taken effect to the mob.

You know SE will never do something that nice. Especially when they don't want PLD to damage deal even a little bit.

[Zagen]

Fun semi-broken sounding idea PLD gets a JA like Retaliation except it works on shield blocks and deals the damage absorbed back to the monster so if you block 100 damage and take 40 the 60 get dealt back to the monster. Keeps shield sizes from getting super broken and keeps Aegis/Ochain broken in comparison. Making it an ability with the duration of the recast allows it to be dispelled gimping PLD but allows them to full-time it otherwise. This gives PLD a way to deal damage while taking damage (discourages /NIN which SE seems to dislike). Also gives PLD a better shot of doing enough damage to warrant using a PLD over a DD as a tank.

[DebbieGibson]

Fun semi-broken sounding idea PLD gets a JA like Retaliation except it works on shield blocks and deals the damage absorbed back to the monster so if you block 100 damage and take 40 the 60 get dealt back to the monster. Keeps shield sizes from getting super broken and keeps Aegis/Ochain broken in comparison. Making it an ability with the duration of the recast allows it to be dispelled gimping PLD but allows them to full-time it otherwise. This gives PLD a way to deal damage while taking damage (discourages /NIN which SE seems to dislike). Also gives PLD a better shot of doing enough damage to warrant using a PLD over a DD as a tank.

I don't think that would be semi-broken at all. That's basically a gimpy counterstance mnk.

[Zagen]

I don't think that would be semi-broken at all. That's basically a gimpy counterstance mnk.

If they cap it maybe not but think about mobs that would hit for 600+ bring an Ochain PLD 2 WHMs and watch the mob kill itself

Edit: not that I wouldn't enjoy seeing that happen.