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  1. #231
    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieGibson View Post
    Then the majority of the game content needs the difficulty increased to where DD cannot tank it.
    That ain't happening. That would require rewriting the entire game from the ground up. It will be cheaper and easier to just write a whole new game.

    It could have been possible to write all of the new content for new levels to need a tank, but that hasn't happened yet and probably won't be at this point.

    So what PLD really needs is a new role to fill.

    Besides, even if all the content was tailored to need a PLD, that would hardly be fair to the 19 other jobs. I want to see PLD be useful, not indispensable.
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    Last edited by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo; 08-22-2011 at 06:44 AM.

  2. #232
    Player DebbieGibson's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    That ain't happening. That would require rewriting the entire game from the ground up. It will be cheaper and easier to just write a whole new game.

    It could have been possible to write all of the new content for new levels to need a tank, but that hasn't happened yet and probably won't be at this point.

    So what PLD really needs is a new role to fill.

    Besides, even if all the content was tailored to need a PLD, that would hardly be fair to the 19 other jobs. I want to see PLD be useful, not indispensable.
    A healing talent tree then
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  3. #233
    Player Renromix's Avatar
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    Can we increase atonement dmg cap when u level up past 75? for example at 90 its gona be 1200-1500dmg
    just an idea
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    Last edited by Renromix; 08-22-2011 at 08:48 AM.

  4. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Besides, even if all the content was tailored to need a PLD, that would hardly be fair to the 19 other jobs. I want to see PLD be useful, not indispensable.
    WHM says hello...
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  5. #235
    Player DebbieGibson's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieGibson View Post
    A healing talent tree then
    To edit my earlier post, or just level whm? What is the problem with just playing a different job if pld isn't needed. It's still your character
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  6. #236
    Player Andrien's Avatar
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    I think even WAR gets Shield Mastery.. The only thing WAR don't have is the magic spells that PLD have native to them. PLD magic is becoming boarder-line obsolete in terms of healing and offensive.

    I find ways to forcefully Cure IV myself to gain enmity by switching in and out HP+ gears. I shouldn't have to be doing this.. Its like saying "Hey guys I'm going to hurt myself, so I can cast Cure IV on myself!"

    I always thought PLD is the defenders of the defenseless. I hope SE wont let us down.
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  7. #237
    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    "Hey guys I'm going to hurt myself(.)"
    Time to level dark knight instead!
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  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieGibson View Post
    To edit my earlier post, or just level whm? What is the problem with just playing a different job if pld isn't needed. It's still your character
    Because it should be useful or not exist. Telling me to play a different job does nothing to solve the problem of a class with no job to fill.

    And I do play different jobs. I'd like to break out the heavy armor every once in a while. Paladin is easily the best-dressed job in the game, but there's no reason to pull any of my gear out of my locker. This is a problem.

    You still don't seem to understand that "play a different job if pld isn't needed" means you'll never be on Paladin. There's no reason to play it, outside of unfamiliar T4 Voidwatch NMs. Once people figure out the gimmicks to those enemies, that too will be an event where Paladin is shelved in favor of SAM, WAR, DRK and MNK. This cycle of figuring out new content will continue until there is no more new content on the horizon, and then Paladin will be permanently out of a job. This is what needs addressing. All the short-sighted people on here barking about Voidwatch are obfuscating the underlying problem.
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  9. #239
    Player Ashael's Avatar
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    Ashael
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    PLD Lv 90
    Agreed. I've got PLD, WAR, WHM, THF, BLU, SAM, RDM, COR, RNG, NIN levelled. I pride myself on versatility. For whatever event I go what's needed. The problem is, PLD is never really needed. PLD is the first job I levelled, it's the job I tanked gods with at 68 waaaaay baaaack in the day.
    I love the job change function, it's what makes FFXI unique. But I would like for there to be a role PLD can fill in parties where I can be useful when the mob isn't spamming Tier VIII -ga spells and hate resets on a 5 minute timer and the only smart damage is an ally of BLMs. I don't want to go back to those days.
    Other games allow tons of jobs to fill different roles with different specializations.
    WHM unfortunately has stolen all the roles of healing (best single target healer, best AoE healer, best HoT healer, best pre-emptive/shield healer (Cureskin) along with with better buffs and with 95, can cover all RDMs enfeebles adequately.
    SE has flatly stated that they will not increase PLDs offensive abilities.
    So that leaves us with tank, which PLD does adequately, but due to the initial mechanics not planning for DDs dishing out 3-7k WS every 10-20s, we get dusted. And it's not like our mitigation abilites are the best, we're dusted by one of the DDs that can out damage us as well as out mitigate us.
    Or support, which I'm sure RDM, SCH and COR would like to be buffed there first.
    Can anyone else think of a role for PLD to play?
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  10. #240
    Player Teraniku's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwizardzin View Post
    ...so in your eyes SE should buff plds attack and def so that it will be an unkillable god that puts all other jobs to shame? Job balance be damned let make pld overpowered so everyone will invite them!
    Wait, you mean like RDM was @75?
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