DRK is good enough already...

[Chriscoffey]

Jar me and taint could post parse after parse and it wouldn't change your mind. I have argued with people in your mindset for years and unless we can physically parse each other there will always be a stalemate on this. I can offer that once i get my apocalypse i will move servers and prove in parsing just how much i do know. The last time someone was "knowing" with me about this they had apocalypse and i had stage 4 and I outparsed them by 15% in Einherjar before all "easy mode" abyssea came out. My very last parse was this same dark vs a war/nin and sam/war (polearm) with above average gear on birds. I was at 41% and i tanked most of the fight losing my TP to the birds. My response to your warrior argument is I personally don't believe they know how to fully utilize their equipment just like the others I have parsed against. I am perfectly fine moving back to Ragnarok and parsing against whoever you want as your god icon for your scenario. I miss UNC anyways he's my huggle buddy.

[Jar]

Jar me and taint could post parse after parse and it wouldn't change your mind. I have argued with people in your mindset for years and unless we can physically parse each other there will always be a stalemate on this. I can offer that once i get my apocalypse i will move servers and prove in parsing just how much i do know. The last time someone was "knowing" with me about this they had apocalypse and i had stage 4 and I outparsed them by 15% in Einherjar before all "easy mode" abyssea came out. My very last parse was this same dark vs a war/nin and sam/war (polearm) with above average gear on birds. I was at 41% and i tanked most of the fight losing my TP to the birds. My response to your warrior argument is I personally don't believe they know how to fully utilize their equipment just like the others I have parsed against. I am perfectly fine moving back to Ragnarok and parsing against whoever you want as your god icon for your scenario. I miss UNC anyways he's my huggle buddy.

Most of what i have posted i have supported with math my 8th grade brother could understand


if there is such a difference That all of what i am posting can be laughed off with immature jokes like others are posting there should be a mathematical situation or some number they can inform me about this.

also If DEF is lower than 999 Gekko / Fudo comparisons would say so and Fudo is doing a little more where gekko is about 7-800 and fudo will do about 1.3K

soooo 1.5625 ftp on gekko 3.65 on Fudo

so if im right and sam can get about the same attack as you for fudo ill toss in 1.848228043143297 Pdif for Fudo

and put 2.2 for Gekko

Gekko .75 STr mod and fudo at .6

lets ball park 170 STR on both Using ( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP * PDIF for WS damage but going to cut out Fstr because its to much work and we want a basic compare i cant do it too if you want after i post this

( 114 + 20 + (170*.6)) * 3.65 * 1.848 = 1773.9876 for fudo (op because they cant get Quite that much attack i dont think prob closer to a 1.6 PDIF)
( 114 + 20 + (170*.75)) * 1.5625 * 2.2 = 898.90625 for gekko

The one i am looking at now did not get Diaed and Fudo is doing about 1K flat 450-500 with PDT up
soo that comes pretty close ........

[Chriscoffey]

I just offered to prove that by moving servers. You have a very snooty behavior that behoves me believe that the only way to prove you wrong, like many others I have encountered, is by physically showing you on the game. The math i quite clearly understand as it is my basis for the counter argument. I am quite convinced even posting parse data would only have negative effects so I feel as if a one on one physical showing quite clearly would show you the results needed to win this approach to your belittlement of everyone involved. You can either accept or decline the offer at this point. There have been many things in life that on paper looked rock solid but in practical use was failed logic because someone forgot about something called "human error".

[Jar]

I just offered to prove that by moving servers. You have a very snooty behavior that behoves me believe that the only way to prove you wrong, like many others I have encountered, is by physically showing you on the game. The math i quite clearly understand as it is my basis for the counter argument. I am quite convinced even posting parse data would only have negative effects so I feel as if a one on one physical showing quite clearly would show you the results needed to win this approach to your belittlement of everyone involved. You can either accept or decline the offer at this point. There have been many things in life that on paper looked rock solid but in practical use was failed logic because someone forgot about something called "human error".

so you where insulting me like a child asking to bring something to my server?

Math or GTFO Plain and simple.




also my argument doesnt support the human error comeback thing <3

im simply Stating why DRK CAN win it is totally up to the player if this math holds up. Tho It would talk a very bad player to lose after All of the data i have put up because it sure seams like DRK has a hefty lead.

[Chriscoffey]

so you where insulting me like a child asking to bring something to my server?

Math or GTFO Plain and simple.




also my argument doesnt support the human error comeback thing <3


I'm simply stating why DRK CAN win it is totally up to the player if this math holds up. Tho It would talk a very bad player to lose after All of the data i have put up because it sure seams like DRK has a hefty lead.

A child is your stance where you name call IE "it's AV idiot" and other replies in previous post. I don't really care what you believe but I respect what Taint has to say as me and him have had arguments over catastrophe use before. I can't recall his belittlement of me ever during any of those conversations. I am being an adult in this situation and saying once I finish my apocalypse I can lay the foundation of proof in front of your face which is apparently the only way to get through to you at this point.

You can also always take into account human error as that is what is running the characters which in turn run the parse which what i said holds true about people not understanding the game dynamics in more detail. You keep talking about how dark mathematically holds up more against a warrior but your discernment of the stance on warrior is their critical/DA rate won't prevail over dark's speed.

You state your math by giving warrior less haste, not using their 2 hour and other ideas which lower their overall DOT to be prevalent over dark by a considerable margin. You nitpick 1 scenario with 1 mob and stand behind it as that is the underlying end all be all result of which you believe our comprehension is lacking. I remember me and Taint having another argument with Pathwriter who had that same type of scenario as well for Last Resort and it making Dark the new god outside abyssea.

[Jar]

You state your math by giving warrior less haste, not using their 2 hour and other ideas which lower their overall DOT to be prevalent over dark by a considerable margin.

I cut out WAR 2 hour becuase in my One situation i am nitpicking it is a hinderance to count on a 2 hour if you would like to know why read back i dont want to quote it

WAR gets less haste because of just that WAR GETS LESS HASTE because 80% is NOT possible with out a DNC and... who would bring a dnc not another WAR?

[Rezeak]

WAR gets less haste because of just that WAR GETS LESS HASTE because 80% is NOT possible with out a DNC and... who would bring a dnc not another WAR?

if DNC brings WAR up to 80% haste then it's near a 50% DMG increase and if thats on 3 WARs that DNC is adding more than what 1 more WAR ......

Not to mention Box step if stacked with Dia III + angon is like increase EVERYONE in the ally's Attack by 7.7%(lv 2) to 20% (lv 5).

Also it's about making the most of what you have 1 DNC can enhance the 3 Strongest WARs meaning that the DNC doesn't need anything special to be as useful as the 3 WAR infact it could even be Dual boxed.

[Taint2]

who would bring a dnc not another WAR?

I think that just about sums it up lol.