Merton Vs Odin: What the hell SE?

[Leonlionheart]

But for the bosses in Voidwatch, it is highly impractical for a SMN to melee. Even the Stage II bosses have tons of horrible AoE moves that can one-shot non-tanks from a moderate distance. It is important to stay far away from their nastiness, having a full compliment of perp staves so that you can try out every Avatar in case its weakness is against a specific Blood Pact.

And there is a fairly significant chance that Empyrean weapon upgrade items are going to come out of Voidwatch, so people should not feel so confident that they will be able to ignore it forever.

Carbuncle, Levianthan, and Titan were the absolute worse because they do so little damage, not to mention that the level 70 blood pacts for Titan and Leviathan love to miss. Those are the staves where it is best to bribe someone to come help melee the mobs down for you.

Please, don't argue with him. He has a superiority complex and several mental handicaps, so it won't do much good. He doesn't believe that SMN is a "stay back and watch it die" job but rather a "i wish i could be a war" job.

[Septimus]

Please, don't argue with him. He has a superiority complex and several mental handicaps, so it won't do much good. He doesn't believe that SMN is a "stay back and watch it die" job but rather a "i wish i could be a war" job.

I am not arguing. Arguing is entirely pointless because neither side can ever win. I am instead explaining my rational. Things that can be done in Abyssea cannot necessarily be done the same way elsewhere. Voidwatch is a very different beast, people need to get used to it or they are going to be incredibly shocked come the next update when the "good times and frequent drop rate" bus comes to a screeching stop and everyone has to load up on the "soul-crushing misery and terrible drop rate" train.

And I am very proud of that last sentence.

[SpankWustler]

I am not arguing. Arguing is entirely pointless because neither side can ever win. I am instead explaining my rational. Things that can be done in Abyssea cannot necessarily be done the same way elsewhere. Voidwatch is a very different beast, people need to get used to it or they are going to be incredibly shocked come the next update when the "good times and frequent drop rate" bus comes to a screeching stop and everyone has to load up on the "soul-crushing misery and terrible drop rate" train.

From this day forward, my new name for a certain part of my anatomy shall be "'the soul-crushing misery and terrible drop rate' train". I don't even care that drop rate barely makes sense in that context, or that "express" would be more descriptive than just "train". It shall be what it shall be.

Which reminds me, how does Odin perform on VoidWatch monsters? Well, assuming they aren't already whittled down to 50% by the time everything has been procced... I guess that's not an ideal situation for the big guy, now that I think about it. So I guess I'd just say that I'm curious if they're immune/resistant or not.

[Economizer]

Which reminds me, how does Odin perform on VoidWatch monsters? Well, assuming they aren't already whittled down to 50% by the time everything has been procced... I guess that's not an ideal situation for the big guy, now that I think about it. So I guess I'd just say that I'm curious if they're immune/resistant or not.

Ignoring this entire thread, I really hope for the day where SE "forgets" to make a mob immune to Odin's death move, just so you can have a long drawn out fight with a massive mob, and a Summoner in your party uses his two hour and accidentally hits Odin instead of Alexander. The look on everyone's face will be priceless, the tale legendary, and the Summoner a hero, even if SE went and patched it later.

Too bad it is probably just "NM tag = immune to XYZ."

[Korpg]

I am not arguing. Arguing is entirely pointless because neither side can ever win. I am instead explaining my rational. Things that can be done in Abyssea cannot necessarily be done the same way elsewhere. Voidwatch is a very different beast, people need to get used to it or they are going to be incredibly shocked come the next update when the "good times and frequent drop rate" bus comes to a screeching stop and everyone has to load up on the "soul-crushing misery and terrible drop rate" train.

You can't be rational to Dallas. I tried that for months and all he gets from that is his WAR complex and how he thinks that he can beat an Ukon WAR in terms of damage and survivability. I now just sit back and watch his arguments (plus, I believe he blacklisted me) and point out the flaws of his argument, the most recent one being that he can kill DC mobs melee in the same time it takes for a SMN who lets the avatar do the job kill 2 EP mobs. So, I guess the emp staff is worth it when you take twice as long to kill something a few levels below you than letting the avatar kill them.