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    Ok, then let's start with IT mobs in Abyssea. The "++" is your skill. The avatar is less than half SMN's damage, so anything that takes you 2 bps only needs 1 plus melee. If the BP takes out 1/3 total HP, you can melee the mob dead in less than 45 seconds.

    "2 in 50 seconds" only uses 1 BP. Assault one, BP the other. Melee the second down, then the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Ok, then let's start with IT mobs in Abyssea. The "++" is your skill. The avatar is less than half SMN's damage, so anything that takes you 2 bps only needs 1 plus melee. If the BP takes out 1/3 total HP, you can melee the mob dead in less than 45 seconds.

    "2 in 50 seconds" only uses 1 BP. Assault one, BP the other. Melee the second down, then the first.
    OOh so you were talking about trash mobs? Sorry when you said duo I thought you meant NMs. On anything weak enough to be spammed for TotM, it's not going to last more than 30secs after a BP, so I can't really see myself bothering to draw my staff for the few melee hits it will get in between. If exping a similar thing happens, I solo merits on Sinister Siedels in grauberg [A] Dom Ops 1. Ramuh 1 shots 1/2 of them and the rest usually have ~10%HP left so there's not much left to do on them and less time to do it.
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    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    I'm certain your definition of reliable is pathetic. Let's try this way: whatever two of you could reliably duo without resummoning is what I can reliably melee. Let's not ever consider anything you can melee.
    So basically, anything that is easy to kill, you can reliably melee. Got it! But, lets go beyond this. Show us something that you can kill that is IT++. Raz and I can kill that without resummoning, but can you kill that as a melee? Abyssea doesn't count because there isn't anything in there that is IT++. Unless it is a body seal NM.
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    Oh wait, you already mentioned that. Still, you can say whatever you want, but where is the proof of your words?

    You know, put your money where your mouth is.
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    Raz, I hope you realize that no other player in the game has had trouble finding mobs between L70 (your skill) and L90 (current cap) to skill on. You aren't 1-shotting everything that is L90+. We call that a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Raz, I hope you realize that no other player in the game has had trouble finding mobs between L70 (your skill) and L90 (current cap) to skill on. You aren't 1-shotting everything that is L90+. We call that a lie.
    No we call that picking your battles, I tend to kill things that help me accomplish my goals in the shortest time available. For instance if I want merits I head on out to Grauberg [A] VC 8. for Dom Ops 1, my Ramuh 1-shots the pots 1/2 times, leaving the rest ~25%HP. Sure I could go out of my way looking for mobs that are weak enough to melee, but tough enough that an Avatar can't tear apart.

    A good example is my current TotM staff is Varuna's -> Varuna's +1, I could melee this trial in Abyssea Tahrongi canyon where Shiva's H.Strike leaves the bats ~50%HP and her unbuffed melee strikes will take quite a while to finish the job, but I've chosen to do it in Upper Delfkutt's T where H.Strike leaves bats ~25%HP and her melee tears them down in a few seconds.

    This can be applied to everything, I mean you wouldn't go farm honey off the bats in La Thiene [A], theres level 0 bees everywhere, and if I was skilling staff I would go find some of those mobs that can take a beating.
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    How exactly is half damage effective at anything? We call this a delusion of adequacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    How exactly is half damage effective at anything? We call this a delusion of adequacy.
    I get it man, I really do you're so desperate to melee you will go out of your way to find mobs you can. You'll even go so far as to killing mobs that an Avatar can't rip apart in seconds but are weak enough you can melee on just so you can melee it down with your Avatar, and say you meleed it. Even though theres a better option for SMN out there that dies in seconds anyway. Congratulations you can melee content other Summoners are already doing effectively without melee, you lucky dog.

    Answer me some Questions

    1) do you solo merits? If so what mobs do you use?

    2) What was the last mob you grinded on for a trial(exact monster and zone please)?
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    You of all people would know that he won't answer those questions, as they are facts and he doesn't give facts out. It also ties him to a set of information that we can later use to show how noobish he is.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    You of all people would know that he won't answer those questions, as they are facts and he doesn't give facts out. It also ties him to a set of information that we can later use to show how noobish he is.
    Lol, I'm hoping he will answer these because, there's not much information about melee SMN that can be gathered from these as in both cases the mobs will be <EM, and it's been established that anyone in Abyssea can bonk these on the head with at least moderate success.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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