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    Player Selzak's Avatar
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    Would it be beneficial to melee in Mavi Minta +1/+2 and macro in Magus Jubbah after the /ma spell casting line in a macro?
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    so you really want me to carry my charged whisker/pdt set in sack, my spell set, my CDC set, my haste set, and my MDT set, then add my blu-eva set?
    Yes.

    i decided f'k the eva set and got a Spell Interrupt Down set for when i have trouble with ichi.
    That's pretty backwards. With an evasion set you won't get hit. You don't need SID for Ichi.
    Blu isnt Nin its not supposed to tank stuff thats too hard for it, so im not using an eva atma and swapping in/out eva gear along with haste/spell gear.
    For evasion tanking I use Gnarled Horn, Razed Ruins and Apocalypse.
    you definitely shouldn't be meleeing the NM because you havent mentioned any subtle blow set
    You can cap Subtle Blow with /NIN or /MNK and equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    if you want to push delta then wear agi gear :P at least you'll have decent subtle blow. and if you're tanking a mob then you're auto-atking so why not have haste most of the time?
    Do you even check any reference sources before you give advise? Delta Thrust is has STR20%/VIT50% mods not AGI.
    If you think gearing in AGI will honestly reduce TP from the 3 hits then why not tell everyone to cast all spells that do damage in AGI gear... (sarcasm if you can't tell) If that isn't the case then please look up spells for their mods before giving advise to others on how to gear for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    so you really want me to carry my charged whisker/pdt set in sack, my spell set, my CDC set, my haste set, and my MDT set, then add my blu-eva set? i decided f'k the eva set and got a Spell Interrupt Down set for when i have trouble with ichi. Blu isnt Nin its not supposed to tank stuff thats too hard for it, so im not using an eva atma and swapping in/out eva gear along with haste/spell gear.

    its one thing to set counter, eva bonus and used Gnarled Horn. its another to tell me im an evasion job.
    BLU isn't an evasion job? Can it be an evasion job on every target? No, but then again neither can THF, DNC, or NIN.

    Your MDT, PDT, Whisker set don't need to be in your Gobbie Bag, satchel those up. Though the Whisker set could stay at home, at least I've never had a situation come up where I didn't know I would be Whisker farming before I left the mog house. Gear sets much like most things in this game are situational, so don't carry all of your gear sets if you know you only need some of them.

    On anything that needs Ichi casting because Ni > Ni isn't enough you should/would be casting Actinic Burst first which favors an evasion set.

    You have more than 1 spell set right? Like STR, AGI, STR/DEX sets? Best part of these sets is some gear carries over into the next set so they aren't that large of a set.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    and if you aren't tanking mobs i dont see how your input is valid. a blu should outdamage a nin tank. and you should NOT be spamming spells unless you're goal is to kill the mob before it can do anything. this is not the case for abyssea nm's because they have too much HP. you definitely shouldn't be meleeing the NM because you havent mentioned any subtle blow set. before you continue this discussion you should pick what you're talking about. i was only stating curiosity's and im being attacked for them. you dont know exactly what's best so try keeping an open mind to find your closest definition of best.
    If you don't end up tanking mobs you're doing something very wrong... For example it took me less than 2 minutes to cap hate on Ningishzida (I wasn't "spamming" spells either) even with me starting off with a CA/SA/TA V. Dive on the tank for 4k+ to ensure he was capped first. I cap even faster on /NIN from the increased melee speed.

    Also LOL at a Subtle Blow set requirement for meleeing... Mobs use TP moves in a very predictable way... You shaving off 2 TP a swing won't change that.
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    Last edited by Zagen; 08-16-2011 at 01:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    so you really want me to carry my charged whisker/pdt set in sack, my spell set, my CDC set, my haste set, and my MDT set, then add my blu-eva set?
    Yes, this is what good BLUs do.


    i decided f'k the eva set and got a Spell Interrupt Down set for when i have trouble with ichi. Blu isnt Nin its not supposed to tank stuff thats too hard for it, so im not using an eva atma and swapping in/out eva gear along with haste/spell gear.
    Shouldn't be casting Ichi in the first place. BLU can tank anything a NIN can and maybe even more, and you shouldn't need an EVA atma to evasion tank on BLU. Your inability to swap gear on a job as gear intensive as BLU is impressive.


    its one thing to set counter, eva bonus and used Gnarled Horn. its another to tell me im an evasion job.
    Setting counter is stupid. BLU has absolutely no trouble capping Evasion rate.

    a blu should outdamage a nin tank.
    Will seldom happen. If you have a NIN the NIN will likely be tanking.

    you definitely shouldn't be meleeing the NM because you havent mentioned any subtle blow set.
    ...what? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You are terrible at this job.
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    Speaking of evasion gear and tanking, does anyone have a good setup they can link me to or list? I haven't tried any kind of tanking except "I'm the only DD left alive, I better try to keep it off the mages til the NIN can Mijin" because I tend to be pretty bad at getting shadows back up (on any job lol). Also, I tend to be one of the last people to get cured in my group, probably because I'm BLU and have access to cure spells, regardless of how difficult it might be to get the cures cast.
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    EVA Set

    Is what I use. Mirke has EVA and Fast Cast on it, Shamshir is EVA brand. Some upgrades can be made to it but with Auroral Drape I cap evade on most things. Can add Spiral Spin too, (Sandspin would be superior but its proc rate is abyssmal).
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    i never said blu's shouldnt melee i said he shouldnt. you only seem to have read the first line in each quote and then totally interrupt it wrong.

    That's pretty backwards. With an evasion set you won't get hit. You don't need SID for Ichi.
    on some mobs you cant cap eva against them. even with capped eva you wont dodge EVERY hit (this would break the game). you can cap SID at 100% so why not do so? it works the same as evading and i already have the pieces from pld or rdm.

    i have an eva set, i just prefer not to use it. on certain things eva is the best way to go, but when farming seals you normally go; Nin, Blu, Whm, Blm/brd. So i am backup tank. why? not because i have any problem keeping hate, but because nin is a job too and i will use it like i use all of my tools and gear. (and omega and ultima are both super easy nms :P)

    i never said to use a Subtle Blow set i was commenting on a rather poor explanation by a poster. in reply it seems his thoughts had more background to them but he didnt share in his first post (the one i commented on). if you're on asura you're more then welcome to show me what you think blu is suppose to do and i'll show you right back.

    and i dont use windower so by the time i hit the 3macros it takes to fully swap gear im a bit further then those who only need to hit 1. makes it a bit tougher to scroll through everything and add more sets.
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    Last edited by Defiledsickness; 08-17-2011 at 12:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    you can cap SID at 100% so why not do so? it works the same as evading and i already have the pieces from pld or rdm.
    It doesn't work nearly the same.
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    SIR Set is best if you're fighting something you can't evade yes, but if you can evade it, use evasion. BLU has less problems evading mobs than Rld or Rdm due to gear/spells/settable traits (both Rdm and Pld have brick evasion on anything worthwhile except maybe if you merited blind 2 and even then...).
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