BLu gear

[Zagen]

What pieces should i try to get to cap equipment haste?
and +2 refresh outside of aby has saved my skin coupled with serpent armor

This set allows Loki or any other body you want:
Zelus Tiara
Dusk Gloves +1
Mavi Tayt +2
Twilight Belt
Homam Gambieras

[Defiledsickness]

i often wonder if gear with pure accuracy isnt as good as stuff like loki's. with all our multi-hit spells its hard to see an actual difference. but refresh shouldnt be a problem. if you are running out of MP you should try using your sword more efficiently or time your shadows better. (of course loki's would be best in abyssea for vorpal blade +RR atma, but you dont have to fulltime it)

full af3+2 you can use dusk feet and dusk hands (NQ) and a twilight belt and you've ~about capped haste. i think you'll be off 1 or 2 points. ocelot gloves and aurore feet can do it too. zelus tiara can free up your body, but the tiara only has haste on it so make sure you swap to a WS set and have a spell set.

[Quedari]

i often wonder if gear with pure accuracy isnt as good as stuff like loki's. with all our multi-hit spells its hard to see an actual difference. but refresh shouldnt be a problem. if you are running out of MP you should try using your sword more efficiently or time your shadows better. (of course loki's would be best in abyssea for vorpal blade +RR atma, but you dont have to fulltime it)

That first line almost makes me think you either fulltime your TP gear for spells or your spell gear for TP. Even if you don't have enough macro room to change all your gear, there's enough room to change a few good stat+/blumagic+ pieces. And the second line... lol. Unless you have an Almace, you shouldn't be depending on that much sword DoT. Spells are usually your best DoT. In Abyssea(lol), I can usually put up QC numbers withing a couple hundred of my Vorpal and Savage numbers (barring random crits from those WS's) while also doing Delta Thrusts for 800-1k and Goblin Rushes for 1k-1.2k. Why would I want to wait for 100tp when I can more than double my damage casting spells? I'm not sure what timing your shadows has to do with it, unless you mean having to cure yourself, which isn't the end of the world. If you're running out of MP, make sure you have refresh, idle in refresh gear, and get MM atma if you need it.

[Ravenmore]

guess i should take my af1 body out of storage :P

thanks for the formula and info on tiers. 410 is easy to reach so i'll check it out to see if its worth using the body (luckily af3 body is still awesome to melee in).

i knew blu magic effected this. but its also in tiers. like Occultation will give you 4 (i think) shadows with under 400skill. but with 400 skill you get 5shadows. (again i'd have to look it up but i think the numbers are right).

osmosis didnt have any other modifier last i checked so using bluskill gear definitely wouldnt hurt. maybe m.acc too.

You get to 8 with 400 skill 7 below.

[Neisan_Quetz]

That first line almost makes me think you either fulltime your TP gear for spells or your spell gear for TP. Even if you don't have enough macro room to change all your gear, there's enough room to change a few good stat+/blumagic+ pieces. And the second line... lol. Unless you have an Almace, you shouldn't be depending on that much sword DoT. Spells are usually your best DoT. In Abyssea(lol), I can usually put up QC numbers withing a couple hundred of my Vorpal and Savage numbers (barring random crits from those WS's) while also doing Delta Thrusts for 800-1k and Goblin Rushes for 1k-1.2k. Why would I want to wait for 100tp when I can more than double my damage casting spells? I'm not sure what timing your shadows has to do with it, unless you mean having to cure yourself, which isn't the end of the world. If you're running out of MP, make sure you have refresh, idle in refresh gear, and get MM atma if you need it.

You go for melee damage because it also adds white damage, and the more haste you have white damage is going to beat spell damage especially on harder targets. Spells are good Damage versus weaker targets that's about it.

[Quedari]

There's still no excuse not to change some gear for spells, even with SE's pitiful macros. And if you're depending on your sword damage to be your primary damage against harder NMs, might as well go change jobs to WAR or DRK or SAM or something. Most of the time my LS doesn't even want me to melee "harder" NMs because they get so spammy. I know that spamming Quad or Goblin isn't really a good idea on harder NMs either because of the multi-hits. In those cases I tend to use single hit spells like Vanity Dive and Benthic (when it isn't being a jerk with resists). Also, if Benthic and it's added effects land, that means everyone else is going to do more damage too. I'm sure there's a point where spell-spamming hurts your overall DoT, as well as a point where not casting enough hurts your overall DoT.

[Defiledsickness]

i do have an almace and luckily dex is good for the ws and some spells.

if you want to push delta then wear agi gear :P at least you'll have decent subtle blow. and if you're tanking a mob then you're auto-atking so why not have haste most of the time?

i had macros for each spell but since im not spamming spells fulltime that got very annoying. delta is great and quad on easy mobs, but if you're not focusing on shadows you're going to die period. you cant fully rely on occultation as we arent eva tanks. so haste beats out tping in spell gear.

and i have gear macros for most everything. but i simply notice that acc is typically close to stat gear. amazes me, but isnt bad gear.

[Quedari]

... Why on earth would you TP in spell gear? I TP in haste gear, cast spells in stat/blumagic gear. I see so many BLUs fulltiming AF body, str rings, minimal haste gear, etc. It makes me sad ;; I have macros for all my spells too. I hate trying to scroll through the list to find stuff. And I rarely tank anything major; my LS is full of NINs and MNKs that tank and heavier DDs (WAR, DRK, etc) that rush in to melee everything as soon as procs are done. I usually depend on occultation and Utsu:Ni if anything is hitting me, because as you said, we aren't evasion tanks, and if I only depended on Ni and Ichi, I'd never have a chance to cast any other spells or even get that many melee swings. Of course, if that was the case, I probably wouldn't have hate anymore lol.

[Prothscar]

i do have an almace and luckily dex is good for the ws and some spells.

if you want to push delta then wear agi gear :P at least you'll have decent subtle blow. and if you're tanking a mob then you're auto-atking so why not have haste most of the time?

i had macros for each spell but since im not spamming spells fulltime that got very annoying. delta is great and quad on easy mobs, but if you're not focusing on shadows you're going to die period. you cant fully rely on occultation as we arent eva tanks. so haste beats out tping in spell gear.

and i have gear macros for most everything. but i simply notice that acc is typically close to stat gear. amazes me, but isnt bad gear.

1) Don't wear AGI gear for Delta Thrust.
2) Ichi is hardly ever worth casting.
3) If you can't EVA tank on BLU you're doing it wrong.

[Defiledsickness]

so you really want me to carry my charged whisker/pdt set in sack, my spell set, my CDC set, my haste set, and my MDT set, then add my blu-eva set? i decided f'k the eva set and got a Spell Interrupt Down set for when i have trouble with ichi. Blu isnt Nin its not supposed to tank stuff thats too hard for it, so im not using an eva atma and swapping in/out eva gear along with haste/spell gear.

its one thing to set counter, eva bonus and used Gnarled Horn. its another to tell me im an evasion job.

and i never said i tp in spell gear wtf. AF3+2 body is haste gear and the reason i said i wonder what the DPS changes are from its +acc and using something like Loki's really is. i dont change my gear for EVERY spell. im not going to lie and say i really care about dmg to every mob (sometimes im talking in LS chat or killing too weak mobs).

and if you aren't tanking mobs i dont see how your input is valid. a blu should outdamage a nin tank. and you should NOT be spamming spells unless you're goal is to kill the mob before it can do anything. this is not the case for abyssea nm's because they have too much HP. you definitely shouldn't be meleeing the NM because you havent mentioned any subtle blow set. before you continue this discussion you should pick what you're talking about. i was only stating curiosity's and im being attacked for them. you dont know exactly what's best so try keeping an open mind to find your closest definition of best.